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FL Survivalist's Community => Family Life => : myakka April 06, 2014, 08:46:55 PM
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I have been discussing with some friends a rash of home invasion robberies south of us in some of the ritzy gated communities of Naples. It made me wonder how often we are unprepared at home. I know I keep a pistol by my chair, but what if I go for a drink of water? use the potty?
So I mentioned this idea at work today, (we all concealed carry for the most part) and to my surprise I was told that a coworker shot and killed an intruder about 10 days ago.
In his case the bad guy was an ex to my coworker's girlfriend. I guess he went there to fight or something, but he kicked in the front door and charged in to the apartment. And my coworker shot him. I don't know any real details outside of what the news said about it. I haven't spoke to the guy yet about it.
But the coincidence is weighing on me. It isn't just the the robberies are going on, but even someone I see at work has had to deal with a home invasion, and lucky for him he was ready.
So how close do you guys keep your firearms? When you are raking the yard are you also packing?
How much concern is healthy, and when does it go over the line?
I am just working through these thoughts more than asking specific questions. I would enjoy hearing you guy's take on it.
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Had a gun on me last year cleaning up the yard and glad I did cause I killed a baby rattler with no rattles. I keep one close enough most of the time. Unless I'm in a area that says no weapons than I cant or I may.. go to jail. But doing yard work like you asked, I say what's wrong with that.. all manner of critters and bad folks around.
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Your home is where you feel the most comfort naturally. Comfort breeds complacency, and in accordance with that you shouldn't allow paranoia into play. I think in our realm of play "paranoia" meets many definitions but, if there is an issue in your area you should weigh things out. Is someone watching and waiting for you to take that break in order for the opportune moment to strike?
A firearm certainly isn't the solve all but it most definitely is an end all. The utilization of it will determine what is accepted to be appropriate both in carry and use. Really, it's a case by case type of thing.
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At my Mom's house I keep my 9mm on top of the fridge, but unless someone is in the kitchen when something happens it's too far away. Unfortunately that is the terms I have to follow to keep it out of the safe and have a chance of it being useful( of course I always have a knife but we know the knife/gunfight saying). Now when I stay at my Grandparents I'm armed it's literally in the Apalachicola Forest and the True Florida is outside my window. As for being paranoid I accept that I'm paranoid and believe it's my purpose to make other people paranoid as well. :D
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I carry all of the time ... at home or otherwise. When I'm in bed I have more than one in easy reach!
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Sometimes my battle hounds will start barking while I'm in the shower and my mind starts racing. I'm not exactly in the best condition to be meeting visitors. If those visitors are home invaders or other zombies, that would be a very bad situation. I don't typically have a weapon with me in the shower. Not good.
I have thought about stashing some defensive weapons in strategic locations around the house. The bathroom will be one of tbose locations.
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EX! I've been saying that! Have thought about those ceramic kitchen knives.
And keeping a car alarm near. So if they get in you can hit the button and either scare them or alert folks. And have the gun stashed close by in the bathroom. I would like to have a pistol even if I've no choice and am Naked.
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Ex naked? /shivers
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Car alarm idea is pretty smart though...
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Ex naked? /shivers
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Car alarm idea is pretty smart though...
Hey, no concealed carry permit needed. Nowhere to conceal! Err... at least I HOPE not... :-[
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At Walmart for about $10 they have a 5 pack of magnetic "window alarms". Battery powered of course.
I often thought that one of them by the chair would be great. Tie a string to one end and mount the other end to furniture. If you hear something pull apart. Instant loud alarm.
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Sometimes my battle hounds will start barking while I'm in the shower and my mind starts racing. I'm not exactly in the best condition to be meeting visitors. If those visitors are home invaders or other zombies, that would be a very bad situation. I don't typically have a weapon with me in the shower. Not good.
I have thought about stashing some defensive weapons in strategic locations around the house. The bathroom will be one of tbose locations.
when I lived in an apartment in town I kept a pistol in the bathroom for that reason Ex.
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i keep the paranoid factor down by trying to keep track of events going around the neighborhood and handle the home weapon situation accordingly...
im trying to figure out a way to keep something( hand gun) in the front room/living room without the wife giving me a hard time... I always do keep a pocket knife (defensive one) on me (in pocket) while walking around the house.. so i have at least something for up close and personal...
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A family member commented on the fact that I was carrying a pistol on my waist at home. She stated that I must be really paranoid to think that I had to have a weapon on me in my own home.
I ask her when the appointment was. She replied what appointment. I said the appointment for the bad guy to come in and rape kill and steal. She at first laughed and then sat there and a look of shock came across her face. She said I guess you just never know when the bad guy is going to show up. I smiled and poured another cup of coffee.
You never know. Most believe that it will happen in the wee hours of the night. More and more home invasions are taking place in daylight and it doesn't matter who is at home. The home invaders are increasing in numbers from one or two to three to five.
Anti Home Invasion Devices include the following: Dog, camera's in plain view, alert neighbors, improved door locks including reinforced steel casings and improved contact and jar alarms. Alarms systems that will protect and alarm when the remote windows and doors less used are breached. A whisper pre alarm system. Area Alarms along with pressure plates again with whisper pre alarms. One of my favorites are the grinder rotation fake cam's that can be purchased for around $12.00 and use a single AA battery. Nothing like the bad guy hearing the cam swipe and see the blinking red light to get his attention. Again the Path Of Least Resistance Theory.
I have weapons in safe locations through my home, garage, yard shed and any place I can locate a weapon. All difficult or near impossible for the bad guys or my grandkids to obtain. There are a variety of commercial hides that will work.
Bumbury keeping track of the events going around the neighborhood might be a bit lite but anything helps except thinking that a knife is going to be good for anything except a knife being included in the process of documenting items included prior to zipping up the body bad.
myaka to pull a string will just start the timer for the bad guys. They already know how long it takes for the cops to arrive. Most folks have found that when neighbors are confronted by armed bad guys they tend to show up at your place a lot slower if at all. Shooting till the bad guy or guys is dead works the very best.....
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Well i spent some time in Tampa, at some areas. And i felt under dressed. Felt i was lacking a BP vest. Looked like a nice area/ place... Even a "safe" hotel felt unsafe. I keep security options open. And I rarely want a BP vest. ....
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Some 290$ and up, up, way up..
The price I seen was about $333.50
http://www.bluedefense.com/bullet-proof-vests/#/product/3
Anyone know of a better price?? Or where to look??
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I carry all the time, even inside the house it's on me or within reach at a seconds notice.
Being female, I have to be even more prepared I think simply because most guys could take me out pretty quickly. It astonishes me how most women are oblivious to the danger and there environments..
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I carry all the time, even inside the house it's on me or within reach at a seconds notice.
Being female, I have to be even more prepared I think simply because most guys could take me out pretty quickly. It astonishes me how most women are oblivious to the danger and there environments..
good for you... it was amazing to me when i was shopping for my shield i ended up talking to a young lady about 22 who carrys like you do working the counter.. she has a roommate also female and she went on to explain to me the circumstances that a woman would encounter as opposed to a man both in home and outside... so i was blown away by her remarks and as she explained to me i should apply her circumstances to my wife and daughter... this was so far our of my box that i was totally blown away... which for me was an eye opener as i never figured the circumstances would be any different for a man as a for a woman... just never thought of it that way.....still so much for me to learn.... ^-^
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Read "The Armed Citizen" column in your NRA magazine. Ever notice how many of them have the phrase "went to retrieve a gun"? I don't want to be going to retrieve a gun. I want it on me at all times. For that reason, it is part of my daily getting-dressed routine. When it's shower time, it sits on the window sill next to the shower along with the cell phone. At night, it sits on the night stand next to a flashlight. The rest of the time it's concealed in a holster on my hip. Granted, much of the time it's a 380 (Colt Mustang) or a .357 (S&W 640), but there are times that a 1911 accompanies me throughout the day. First rule of gunfighting - have a gun.
Note: You may ask "why concealed?" When you make it part of your daily routine, it is too easy to head out the door and forget that you've got it on you. Florida is not an Open Carry state.
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I feel odd with out weapons near me is this a bad thing? HI I'm "D" and I have a problem. I don't trust bad guys or government folks. And I like weapons! Rifles, pistols, "guns", and I like bats, clubs and traps, and well weapons in general.
I will sit down now. Nice meeting you all.
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Welcome D to WAA, now that we all now each other why don't we start with what new weapons we have baught recently. ;D
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Newist one I've had for a "short" while. A, Elsie P. How about you? Recently got some hollows for it. First I've bought in a long time. Hard to find. Would like more but funds are lowish. And ammo has been hard to get.
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Read "The Armed Citizen" column in your NRA magazine. Ever notice how many of them have the phrase "went to retrieve a gun"? I don't want to be going to retrieve a gun. I want it on me at all times. For that reason, it is part of my daily getting-dressed routine. When it's shower time, it sits on the window sill next to the shower along with the cell phone. At night, it sits on the night stand next to a flashlight. The rest of the time it's concealed in a holster on my hip. Granted, much of the time it's a 380 (Colt Mustang) or a .357 (S&W 640), but there are times that a 1911 accompanies me throughout the day. First rule of gunfighting - have a gun.
Note: You may ask "why concealed?" When you make it part of your daily routine, it is too easy to head out the door and forget that you've got it on you. Florida is not an Open Carry state.
I'm right there with you Stephen. People think I'm nuts, I think they're stupid for thinking they're in a safe zone once they close the front door. I had a friend that put her gun away right when she walked into the house. I gave her an earful about that. She hasn't done it since!
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The problem, more than anything else, is the perception that our society now has. Several hundred years ago, every man carried a sword and every woman carried a dagger or a pair of very sharp scissors. It was just what normal people did. It was almost a fashion accessory - like owning a nice watch. It was more than just a utilitarian means of defense - it was a symbol - a statement that the bearer stood ready to defend himself (or herself) and those he cared for. Later, the sword changed to a sidearm. Again, it was a symbol as well as a tool. That's why there is a long history of decorating swords and guns. They were more than just a tool. Not to belabor the point, but they were works of art because they were personal sidearms carried by ladies and gentlemen. They were never looked down on or thought of as being paranoid as they are today.
There are those who view guns as strictly utilitarian tools, no more personal than a mop or a pair of pliers. I won't argue with them, but that kind of attitude tells me they view the world through a different lens than I do. The guns that I carry are all customized aesthetically in some way - usually by replacing the stock plastic grips with a nice set of semi-custom grips. Those who don't understand will just have to wonder. Those who do, already know.
We will know that our society is well on the way to getting back on course when open carry is not only universally legal, but universally expected of every gentleman; when people admire the fine engraving and beautiful wood of a custom 1911 on a man's hip rather than recoiling in fear as the nanny-state tells them to do.
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We will know that our society is well on the way to getting back on course when open carry is not only universally legal, but universally expected of every gentleman; when people admire the fine engraving and beautiful wood of a custom 1911 on a man's hip rather than recoiling in fear as the nanny-state tells them to do.
If only that day would hurry up and arrive. I know I will feel much better about this country when it does.
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We will know that our society is well on the way to getting back on course when open carry is not only universally legal, but universally expected of every gentleman; when people admire the fine engraving and beautiful wood of a custom 1911 on a man's hip rather than recoiling in fear as the nanny-state tells them to do.
If only that day would hurry up and arrive. I know I will feel much better about this country when it does.
+ 1 HERE TOO
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Living in the country, I always have at least a handgun on me when outside on the property. Usually a .410 shotgun as well.
Not so much for "bad guys" (crime is very, very low here. Except for posetion and/or sales of drugs). But for perhaps a rabid fox or racoon coming out of the wood lot.
Our property is fully fenced and gated, the house sits 175 feet off the road, my dogs would let me know if anyone was there. In the 15+ years we have been here there hasn't been an encroachment. I would have time to walk the 12 feet into my bedroom for a weapon.
There is always a Mini 14 with full magazine leaning against the wall at the head of the bed. When I go to sleep that is augmented with a 1911 or a S&W revolver on the nightstand plus a double barrel shotgun in the corner. The shotgun is mainly if the chickens start squawking and the horses sound nervous in the middle of the night and the Boss Lady "suggests" I go for a look-see.
Once, long ago and far away, in a very dangerous place, I learned first hand the wisdom of the saying "It's better to have a weapon and not need it, than to need a weapon and not have one."
Ever since that day i have always been armed, even if it was just a Buck 110 folder.
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I was talking to my cousin and he reminded me of something. My family's property has two entrances one is gravel off a an unpainted asphalt road, one is a two lane rut road through woods and if it rains a swamp. One day I was at my Grandparent's house and two trucks with over 10 people came down from the gravel road. I grabbed my knife and pistol and watched them, my cousin was at my great aunt's further down he told me he grabbed his rifle and stepped outside. There is no way to know that there is not a second entrance when driving down the main entrance to the property. The second entrance goes through a friend of the family's property before it gets to the woods so no clue there. Needless to say that when my grandparents got back from vacation my grandpa hung his gun rack on the wall with a handful of shotgun shells beneath his shotgun.
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I was talking to my cousin and he reminded me of something. My family's property has two entrances one is gravel off a an unpainted asphalt road, one is a two lane rut road through woods and if it rains a swamp. One day I was at my Grandparent's house and two trucks with over 10 people came down from the gravel road. I grabbed my knife and pistol and watched them, my cousin was at my great aunt's further down he told me he grabbed his rifle and stepped outside. There is no way to know that there is not a second entrance when driving down the main entrance to the property. The second entrance goes through a friend of the family's property before it gets to the woods so no clue there. Needless to say that when my grandparents got back from vacation my grandpa hung his gun rack on the wall with a handful of shotgun shells beneath his shotgun.
What was the outcome? What were those people doing on your property?
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They never came back we have no idea for sure WHY they were on our property. My cousin obviously didn't want to confront two pickups full of them by himself since it's about 150 yds from where I was. He was with my great aunt who isn't a bad shot with a pistol and I was with my mom who hasn't shot a gun before despite my repeated attempts to change that.
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Maybe they were just a couple of trucks full of kids looking for a place to go mudding. They might have mistaken your driveway for a forest road. Good thing you're not the "shoot first" type.
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::) Yeah but you can bet your last can that SHTF they'll be back
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+1 over here for carrying at all times even when home!
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When the grid goes down and the shit hits the fan
When the zombies surround you should you make a stand
with a .223 and a Colt .45
or Double-ought buck and a will to survive
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When the grid goes down and the shit hits the fan
When the zombies surround you should you make a stand
with a .223 and a Colt .45
or Double-ought buck and a will to survive
Let the good times roll.
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I don't know...shotty...wonder9 or ninja sword...whats the best way to welcome unwelcome guests?
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If I see you at the campout, I will retell the story of greeting midnight guests with a katana. It makes a colorful anecdote.
(I think there is a thread about it here somewhere............)
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This is how I roll. Just sayin...
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Got alarms, bells, an whistles, being notified when there coming is important.. I may not necessarily know all but enough of what's happening an what's around. Wish that I had some things I don't, but you do whatever you can..
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Dad gum it man. A bAKon 47. It is beautiful.....
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It's slightly aged like a fine wine.
Time to let this thread breath a bit...
7 out of 10 times I do carry something at home. Pick which days I may not be...
Because if its not me it very close by...
So much has happened since this thread was started I feel like now most should be, an get practice carrying cause when the shtf thats not the time to find something an not be used to having it around... :-)