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FL Survivalist's Community => Survivalist News => : Sentry April 11, 2014, 12:34:04 AM
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Can they? Will they?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2601437/North-Korea-strike-U-S-nuclear-attack.html
Kim's secret weapon: North Korea 'is capable of striking U.S. with a nuclear electromagnetic pulse attack'
Peter Vincent Pry 'has seen' leaked report from Homeland Security
EMP attack could instantly cripple defence and infrastructure systems
Dr Pry says any missile is likely to travel over the South Pole
U.S. has 'no early warning radars' to prevent attack from the south
North Korea has the capability to deliver on its threats to carry out a nuclear electromagnetic pulse attack on the United States, it has been claimed.
Dr Peter Vincent Pry, executive director of the Task Force on National and Homeland Security, has reportedly seen a long-suppressed government report that concludes North Korea is capable of using an Unha-3 rocket to carry out an attack on the U.S..
He says the U.S. would be particularly vulnerable to such an attack, as any rocket from North Korea is likely to travel over the South Pole and approach from the south - something American missile defences would apparently be powerless to stop.
Dr Pry made the claims in an interview with the World News Daily website, in which he was quoted as saying: 'The North Koreans are seeing what they can get away with... It shows that Pyongyang is planning something big against the U.S.'
Dr Pry's Task Force on National and Homeland Security advises U.S. Congress on matters of defence, and he was also formerly the head of the Congressionally-mandated EMP Commission, which looked into the threat of electromagnetic pulse attacks.
He told the website that he had seen a long-suppressed report prepared by the Department of Homeland Security for the Defense Department that apparently concludes that the best defence the U.S had against a North Korean attack would be to destroy the rocket on the launch pad.
This is due to the U.S. having 'no early warning radars or interceptors' to stop a missile from the south, and because the the country also lacks adequate defenses on its east coast, Dr Pry said.
An electromagnetic pulse attack involves a nuclear warhead being detonated hundreds of miles above the earth's surface, with the resulting burst of energy disrupting or destroying all electronic devices - including communications, navigation and sensor systems - in the affected area.
Such an attack on the U.S. would cripple the country's defence systems, not to mention cause chaos in any scenario where an electronic device is required - including road, sea and air transport, government and civilian communications and, of course, the throughout entire economic sector.
The leaked Department of Homeland Security report allegedly claims that North Korea's leader Kim Jong-un already successfully practiced an electromagnetic pulse attack on the U.S. in early 2013.
In spring of that year, tensions on the Korean Peninsula dramatically increased, thanks to North Korea's repeat threats of war - including releasing videos depicting a nuclear attack on Washington.
Dr Pry said the DHS report was commissioned as a result of these threats.
He also said that in December 2012 a North Korean satellite was tracked above central and eastern U.S., and could have caused nationwide destruction had it been fitted with a nuclear warhead.
Dr Pry's claims come months of insistence from the Obama administration that North Korea still did not have the capability to attack the U.S. or its allies with nuclear weapons.
The Department of Homeland Security has not yet responded to Dr Pry's allegations.
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I found these interesting as well:
North Korea tells world 'wait and see' on new nuclear test
North Korea said on Friday that the world would have to "wait and see" when asked for details of "a new form" of nuclear test it threatened to carry out after the United Nations Security Council condemned Pyongyang's recent ballistic missile launch.
North Korea fired two medium-range Rodong ballistic missiles into the sea on March 26. Its first firing in four years of mid-range missiles that can hit Japan followed a series of short-range rocket launches over the past two months
http://news.yahoo.com/north-korea-tells-world-wait-see-nuclear-test-180312944--sector.html;_ylt=AwrTWVWL6kdTwkwA87zQtDMD
Japan Prepares to Shoot North Korean Missiles Out of the Sky
Pyongyang may fire ballistic missiles in Japan’s direction this month, but Tokyo believes it’s ready to knock down whatever North Korea sends its way … as long as there aren’t too many of them.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/04/10/japan-prepares-to-shoot-north-korean-missiles-out-of-the-sky.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+thedailybeast%2Farticles+%28The+Daily+Beast+-+Latest+Articles%29#url=/articles/2014/04/10/japan-prepares-to-shoot-north-korean-missiles-out-of-the-sky.html
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Yea, I'd seen that one as well. Guess well have to wait and see what happens. 2016's gonna be interesting year
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"There will be wars and rumors of wars"- Revalations
As the old saying goes. Things will get worse before they get better. And ol' kim is new.
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There have been rumors of wars since the beginning of time.
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North Korea tells world 'wait and see' on new nuclear test
North Korea said on Friday that the world would have to "wait and see" when asked for details of "a new form" of nuclear test it threatened to carry out after the United Nations Security Council condemned Pyongyang's recent ballistic missile launch.
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"A new form" of nuclear test? I'd take this one seriously. Those North Koreans are pretty smart. Remember when they invented an invisible cell phone so Kim Jong-il could communicate with their soccer players at the World Cup?
http://abcnews.go.com/International/world-cup-2010-north-korean-coach-talks-kim/story?id=10931655 (http://abcnews.go.com/International/world-cup-2010-north-korean-coach-talks-kim/story?id=10931655)
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heard they arested a american tourist ...
other than that they been quiet, too quiet...
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When some one says it's too quiet something immediately goes BOOM!
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Why any US citizen would go into North Korea and take that chance eludes me...
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Why any US citizen would go into North Korea and take that chance eludes me...
It wasn't Dennis Rodman was it?
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Wouldn't that be great!!!!
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Why any US citizen would go into North Korea and take that chance eludes me...
It wasn't Dennis Rodman was it?
ha!
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Why any US citizen would go into North Korea and take that chance eludes me...
It wasn't Dennis Rodman was it?
ha!
You can't fix stupid.
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Why any US citizen would go into North Korea and take that chance eludes me...
It wasn't Dennis Rodman was it?
If it was, I hope they keep him!
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it was actually a preacher that got arrested and the North Korean preacher that was with him got executed....
The Kim and the Iranians both know the alkalies heel of the US is the power grid... dont put it past them to work in that direction they both know that they cant go at it the direct action route....
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Obama-lama-ding-dong and is minion cabinet secretarys will do business as usual and just sweep this info under the rug. Remember it's an elections season so they have other more important things to do. That being said- what concerns me is the N. Korean statement of "wait and SEE." Keep stocking up and putting electronic stuff in a Faraday cage ya'll. :(
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They may not go at directly? They why they still doin nuke test and teeing off the south? And threating others?
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Because they're trained to be brainless and run by a spoiled child that has been given the power of life and death and taught that he deserves it and that everybody loves him for keeping them on the border of desperation and starvation all while he controls everything they're allowed to learn.
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They may not go at directly? They why they still doin nuke test and teeing off the south? And threating others?
You may dig a couple books by a former colleague of mine--we were both Korean linguists in the USMC. This guy probably knows the most of anyone re: North Korea. About four years ago I got to meet up with him again and he invited me to some of his classes at the USMC Command & Staff School in Quantico when my husband was going through.
He wrote Red Rogue in 2007
http://www.amazon.com/Red-Rogue-Persistent-Challenge-North/dp/1597971111
and Defiant Failed State in 2010
http://www.amazon.com/Defiant-Failed-State-International-Security/dp/1597975311/ref=pd_sim_b_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=08EHV9X0K6EJG7Y26Y39
They are both *very* good books. Like I said, the dude knows a lot, and he does a great job of laying all the info out there.
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Obama-lama-ding-dong and is minion cabinet secretarys will do business as usual and just sweep this info under the rug. Remember it's an elections season so they have other more important things to do. That being said- what concerns me is the N. Korean statement of "wait and SEE." Keep stocking up and putting electronic stuff in a Faraday cage ya'll. :(
Saints i do believe your right about that.... the North conspired with Iran years ago and the general gist is that they are going after the emp because Iran has repeadely said that, is the akillies heal of the US and im sure they passed the info on the the north... I read last year that the failure of the last rocket shot from the north and iran was for them a success because they wernt looking for a nuke deliver system rocket just an atmosphere explosion so when the rockets went boom they celebrated and the WH and all those stooges went LOOK they cant even build a rocket that flies... (as per the media) so i dont under estamate the north any iv lived in south Korea for alot of years and i just dont like it when the media makes the north look stupid its a false sence of security because in reality they'v been around this long and they have that asian mentality of superority... So when Clinton gave in to the them over the food sanctions the north started teaching their kids in school how they defeated the great US because they the US backed down.. So with this stoge in office now their isnt no telling what their thinking...
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We may start hearing more threats coming from "baby hewey" real soon since he has let his anger and paranoia show when he heard a movie has been made about assassinating him. I'm sure he will start threatening us again....
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Why any US citizen would go into North Korea and take that chance eludes me...
The real question is why would anyone NOT want to go to North Korea? After all, North Korea is best Korea!
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Obama-lama-ding-dong
I know - off topic a bit, but every time I hear something like that, it reminds me of a missionary that I work with. He is stationed in Sierra Leone - a heavily Muslim country in West Africa. One day, he went into a shop and was approached by a beggar for money for food. His response was, "Hey, it's Rama-dama-ding-dong. You aren't supposed to be out here cooking and eating anyway! What's your Prophet got to say about that?" The other Muslims in the shop just started laughing at the crazy American Christian and his reaction to the beggar. Now, my thought is, "Man are you crazy? They kill people for anything that even sounds like an insult, and you're calling their holiday "Rama-dama-ding-dong?" I guess you'd have to know him. He's not afraid of anything.
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Obama-lama-ding-dong
I know - off topic a bit, but every time I hear something like that, it reminds me of a missionary that I work with. He is stationed in Sierra Leone - a heavily Muslim country in West Africa. One day, he went into a shop and was approached by a beggar for money for food. His response was, "Hey, it's Rama-dama-ding-dong. You aren't supposed to be out here cooking and eating anyway! What's your Prophet got to say about that?" The other Muslims in the shop just started laughing at the crazy American Christian and his reaction to the beggar. Now, my thought is, "Man are you crazy? They kill people for anything that even sounds like an insult, and you're calling their holiday "Rama-dama-ding-dong?" I guess you'd have to know him. He's not afraid of anything.
that's funny :D
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Why any US citizen would go into North Korea and take that chance eludes me...
The real question is why would anyone NOT want to go to North Korea? After all, North Korea is best Korea!
Awesome. I haven't seen that one yet...
Once I get settled in WA I'm going to pull out the art work I copied and snuck out of the work space when I left the ROK. There were 2 or 3 three Army Korean translators who were amazing artists and would come up with the funniest crap (the mind gets a little weird on the night shift). This was the era of Kim Il Sung. KIS's face would be superimposed over a swimsuit model & Charleton Heston as Moses, etc. Someone took the cover of the U-2's Joshua Tree album, put KIS and all the other dear leaders' faces on it and renamed it The Juche Tree. OMgosh--the stuff was hysterical. And this was before photoshop.
We also had North Korean magazines/propaganda delivered to our workspace and we Americans would read them during slow shifts and laugh our heads off. Meanwhile the ROK military guys we worked side by side with would be totally freaked out and refused to even *look* at the magazines. If they or anyone in their families had that crap in their house they would be arrested. They would surreptitiously look in the passdown log at all the crazy pictures and artwork (that I mentioned above) only if it was "safe" and on a night shift with people they trusted. Cracked me up.
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altho i personally do get a kick out of the propaganda the ROK's do have a differant perspective of the issue... my MOM who was 13 when the north came across the border has no sense of humor when it come to the North... period.... it to her is a dead serious subject to not be taken lightly.... My grandfather fought the japs in WW2 when they occupied Korea he was a partisan fighter as did my uncle who was 13 at the time of the war... my grandfather got my grandmother, mom her 3 sisters 1 brother (the other one (oldest)was already working for the ROK's at the time of the war, fighting) all the way to Pusan from Seoul on foot via the back roads and woods.... what a story that is to hear my mom and her sisters talk about it... they lived off the land and whatever they could find or got from the moving GI's... They literately bugged out with only what they could carry.. stayed away from caravans, trains and main road ways.. moved at dusk and night and holed up during the day took them 6 months to make it to Pusan but they made it.... the bug out event has left a permanent indent on my moms memory as it did for my aunts and uncle they to this day have a differant attitude about preparing for hardships and unexpected events...
im a truly a rookie compared to them... I never knew my grandfather on my moms sides he passed shortly after i was born but boy i would love to sit and have a chat with him over a bottle of sojo.....
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altho i personally do get a kick out of the propaganda the ROK's do have a differant perspective of the issue... my MOM who was 13 when the north came across the border has no sense of humor when it come to the North... period.... it to her is a dead serious subject to not be taken lightly.... My grandfather fought the japs in WW2 when they occupied Korea he was a partisan fighter as did my uncle who was 13 at the time of the war... my grandfather got my grandmother, mom her 3 sisters 1 brother (the other one (oldest)was already working for the ROK's at the time of the war, fighting) all the way to Pusan from Seoul on foot via the back roads and woods.... what a story that is to hear my mom and her sisters talk about it... they lived off the land and whatever they could find or got from the moving GI's... They literately bugged out with only what they could carry.. stayed away from caravans, trains and main road ways.. moved at dusk and night and holed up during the day took them 6 months to make it to Pusan but they made it.... the bug out event has left a permanent indent on my moms memory as it did for my aunts and uncle they to this day have a differant attitude about preparing for hardships and unexpected events...
im a truly a rookie compared to them... I never knew my grandfather on my moms sides he passed shortly after i was born but boy i would love to sit and have a chat with him over a bottle of sojo.....
There is no substitute for first hand experience... Thanks for sharing that. Congrats to your family for being survivors..
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Wow bumbury. . . .
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Firing rockets.
http://sprint.mw.cnn.com/viewarticle?id=1052681
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altho i personally do get a kick out of the propaganda the ROK's do have a differant perspective of the issue... my MOM who was 13 when the north came across the border has no sense of humor when it come to the North... period.... it to her is a dead serious subject to not be taken lightly.... My grandfather fought the japs in WW2 when they occupied Korea he was a partisan fighter as did my uncle who was 13 at the time of the war... my grandfather got my grandmother, mom her 3 sisters 1 brother (the other one (oldest)was already working for the ROK's at the time of the war, fighting) all the way to Pusan from Seoul on foot via the back roads and woods.... what a story that is to hear my mom and her sisters talk about it... they lived off the land and whatever they could find or got from the moving GI's... They literately bugged out with only what they could carry.. stayed away from caravans, trains and main road ways.. moved at dusk and night and holed up during the day took them 6 months to make it to Pusan but they made it.... the bug out event has left a permanent indent on my moms memory as it did for my aunts and uncle they to this day have a differant attitude about preparing for hardships and unexpected events...
im a truly a rookie compared to them... I never knew my grandfather on my moms sides he passed shortly after i was born but boy i would love to sit and have a chat with him over a bottle of sojo.....
Bum, that's a great account. Thanks for sharing that. It would actually make a pretty good book if you fleshed it out a little.
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altho i personally do get a kick out of the propaganda the ROK's do have a differant perspective of the issue... my MOM who was 13 when the north came across the border has no sense of humor when it come to the North... period.... it to her is a dead serious subject to not be taken lightly.... My grandfather fought the japs in WW2 when they occupied Korea he was a partisan fighter as did my uncle who was 13 at the time of the war... my grandfather got my grandmother, mom her 3 sisters 1 brother (the other one (oldest)was already working for the ROK's at the time of the war, fighting) all the way to Pusan from Seoul on foot via the back roads and woods.... what a story that is to hear my mom and her sisters talk about it... they lived off the land and whatever they could find or got from the moving GI's... They literately bugged out with only what they could carry.. stayed away from caravans, trains and main road ways.. moved at dusk and night and holed up during the day took them 6 months to make it to Pusan but they made it.... the bug out event has left a permanent indent on my moms memory as it did for my aunts and uncle they to this day have a differant attitude about preparing for hardships and unexpected events...
im a truly a rookie compared to them... I never knew my grandfather on my moms sides he passed shortly after i was born but boy i would love to sit and have a chat with him over a bottle of sojo.....
Bum, that's a great account. Thanks for sharing that. It would actually make a pretty good book if you fleshed it out a little.
Ex thanks and i always thought about it because its one heck of a story... only thing tho is as of today my mom is the last one of all her sisters and brothers left and i have her account on a tape recording some where.. mostly her experiences of the war in an interview type format. i did it for the kids and grandkids well long before the grand kid was born but always in the back of the mind... ^-^.... it'll be something to have to be able to hear her voice when shes gone and the same for the kids and now the grandkid/s... My moms oldest sister had the better account than what my mom can remember of it because of her age but when i was a kid my aunt would talk and talk because she was 17 when it all went down and her memories of the event were quite crisp.... I also did the same with my dad as he grew up dirt poor single mom in the 40's and 50's joined the army and deployed to Korea just a few years after the armestist when the North was still shooting at the trains at the border so i got his accounts of that and the time he served in vietnam.... just keeping these things around for the family history and one day in the long future im sure hearing their voices's will be comforting for me.....
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altho i personally do get a kick out of the propaganda the ROK's do have a differant perspective of the issue... my MOM who was 13 when the north came across the border has no sense of humor when it come to the North... period.... it to her is a dead serious subject to not be taken lightly.... My grandfather fought the japs in WW2 when they occupied Korea he was a partisan fighter as did my uncle who was 13 at the time of the war... my grandfather got my grandmother, mom her 3 sisters 1 brother (the other one (oldest)was already working for the ROK's at the time of the war, fighting) all the way to Pusan from Seoul on foot via the back roads and woods.... what a story that is to hear my mom and her sisters talk about it... they lived off the land and whatever they could find or got from the moving GI's... They literately bugged out with only what they could carry.. stayed away from caravans, trains and main road ways.. moved at dusk and night and holed up during the day took them 6 months to make it to Pusan but they made it.... the bug out event has left a permanent indent on my moms memory as it did for my aunts and uncle they to this day have a differant attitude about preparing for hardships and unexpected events...
im a truly a rookie compared to them... I never knew my grandfather on my moms sides he passed shortly after i was born but boy i would love to sit and have a chat with him over a bottle of sojo.....
Bum, that's a great account. Thanks for sharing that. It would actually make a pretty good book if you fleshed it out a little.
Ex thanks and i always thought about it because its one heck of a story... only thing tho is as of today my mom is the last one of all her sisters and brothers left and i have her account on a tape recording some where.. mostly her experiences of the war in an interview type format. i did it for the kids and grandkids well long before the grand kid was born but always in the back of the mind... ^-^.... it'll be something to have to be able to hear her voice when shes gone and the same for the kids and now the grandkid/s... My moms oldest sister had the better account than what my mom can remember of it because of her age but when i was a kid my aunt would talk and talk because she was 17 when it all went down and her memories of the event were quite crisp.... I also did the same with my dad as he grew up dirt poor single mom in the 40's and 50's joined the army and deployed to Korea just a few years after the armestist when the North was still shooting at the trains at the border so i got his accounts of that and the time he served in vietnam.... just keeping these things around for the family history and one day in the long future im sure hearing their voices's will be comforting for me.....
Bum, I read your post to City Girl yesterday, and the first thing she said was, "Wow. He should record his mom talking about it so the story isn't lost." Be careful with that tape... they're pretty fragile. Maybe you could transfer it to CD.
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Bum, I read your post to City Girl yesterday, and the first thing she said was, "Wow. He should record his mom talking about it so the story isn't lost." Be careful with that tape... they're pretty fragile. Maybe you could transfer it to CD.
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I hear ya Ex i screwed up when i did it i put on one of those micro hand held recorders back in the late 80's and altho its been a while since iv looked iv not found a company that can transfer it to an mp3 to burn to a cd.... i guess i should look again im sure the technology has caught up by now....
the wife found an old vhs recording of a vacation we took back in 92 it was the last one with both her grandparents and we transfered it to a cd/dvd a few years ago and its amazing to hear them again after all this time.. its really amazing the one thing you do forget is the sound of their voice's.. i highly recommend if people have older loved ones get them on tape/cd/ whatever and just ask them to talk about their lives... and when you were really young they can put pieces together you dont know about... its pretty awesome stuff.....
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I hear ya Ex i screwed up when i did it i put on one of those micro hand held recorders back in the late 80's and altho its been a while since iv looked iv not found a company that can transfer it to an mp3 to burn to a cd.... i guess i should look again im sure the technology has caught up by now....
the wife found an old vhs recording of a vacation we took back in 92 it was the last one with both her grandparents and we transfered it to a cd/dvd a few years ago and its amazing to hear them again after all this time.. its really amazing the one thing you do forget is the sound of their voice's.. i highly recommend if people have older loved ones get them on tape/cd/ whatever and just ask them to talk about their lives... and when you were really young they can put pieces together you dont know about... its pretty awesome stuff.....
Bum, I read your post to City Girl yesterday, and the first thing she said was, "Wow. He should record his mom talking about it so the story isn't lost." Be careful with that tape... they're pretty fragile. Maybe you could transfer it to CD. It's pretty easy to do it yourself. http://www.wikihow.com/Transfer-Cassette-Tape-to-Computer (http://www.wikihow.com/Transfer-Cassette-Tape-to-Computer)
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.. i highly recommend if people have older loved ones get them on tape/cd/ whatever and just ask them to talk about their lives... and when you were really young they can put pieces together you dont know about... its pretty awesome stuff.....
I did a video where we sat my mom and dad down and asked them about their early years. Among the gems - stories about an unauthorized Jeep trip into Nagasaki shortly after the atom bomb, worries about the Japanese reactions as they entered Tokyo Harbor (his ship was one of the first in line to enter), impressions of Japanese military facilities, dinner in the home of his Japanese counterpart (Dad was a Naval Meteorologist, so he located the chief Meteorologist in Tokyo to see how they did things there), and all sorts of other cool stories. He died several years ago, and there are so many more things I wish I could have asked as I went through his photos (he was also the ship's photographer, so I inherited the largest collection of photos from that ship in existence).
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altho i personally do get a kick out of the propaganda the ROK's do have a differant perspective of the issue... my MOM who was 13 when the north came across the border has no sense of humor when it come to the North... period.... it to her is a dead serious subject to not be taken lightly....
Yeah, that usually happens when one is in a situation like that.
My grandfather fought the japs in WW2 when they occupied Korea he was a partisan fighter as did my uncle who was 13 at the time of the war... my grandfather got my grandmother, mom her 3 sisters 1 brother (the other one (oldest)was already working for the ROK's at the time of the war, fighting) all the way to Pusan from Seoul on foot via the back roads and woods.... what a story that is to hear my mom and her sisters talk about it... they lived off the land and whatever they could find or got from the moving GI's... They literately bugged out with only what they could carry.. stayed away from caravans, trains and main road ways.. moved at dusk and night and holed up during the day took them 6 months to make it to Pusan but they made it.... the bug out event has left a permanent indent on my moms memory as it did for my aunts and uncle they to this day have a differant attitude about preparing for hardships and unexpected events...
im a truly a rookie compared to them... I never knew my grandfather on my moms sides he passed shortly after i was born but boy i would love to sit and have a chat with him over a bottle of sojo.....
Wow. Seoul to Pusan. That's a long way. Pretty impressive.
I'm still ticked off that the day I was late to Chinese class in college (due to an appointment or something) was the day our instructor told the class how he escaped with his college buddies from the invading Japanese by hiking through the mountains with nothing but the clothes on their backs. The bit I caught was amazing.
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.. i highly recommend if people have older loved ones get them on tape/cd/ whatever and just ask them to talk about their lives... and when you were really young they can put pieces together you dont know about... its pretty awesome stuff.....
I did a video where we sat my mom and dad down and asked them about their early years. Among the gems - stories about an unauthorized Jeep trip into Nagasaki shortly after the atom bomb, worries about the Japanese reactions as they entered Tokyo Harbor (his ship was one of the first in line to enter), impressions of Japanese military facilities, dinner in the home of his Japanese counterpart (Dad was a Naval Meteorologist, so he located the chief Meteorologist in Tokyo to see how they did things there), and all sorts of other cool stories. He died several years ago, and there are so many more things I wish I could have asked as I went through his photos (he was also the ship's photographer, so I inherited the largest collection of photos from that ship in existence).
Stephen thats a treasure trove of pictures to have and those stories are amazing to keep for future generatons... the only thing my mom has from her child hood is a picture of her mom... when the US Army showed up at their house/farm and told them to get out off their house they grabed what ever they could wrapped them in a blanket and left... I believe they were forward observers because my mom said they were setting up alot of radios and talking on them when they left.... they hiked to the next town for the night about 5 miles away... the next day my grandfather returned to the house only to find it completly destroyed as my mom put it a big hole in the ground.... so from there they started trekking south...
Yea seige that is a long long way especially on foot when i was a kid we took the train and i thought it was a long ride... my mom said it took them almost 6 months to get there... and since you'v been there you know how cold it gets there during the fall and winter months... brrrrrrrrr..... just thinking about it........
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.. i highly recommend if people have older loved ones get them on tape/cd/ whatever and just ask them to talk about their lives... and when you were really young they can put pieces together you dont know about... its pretty awesome stuff.....
I did a video where we sat my mom and dad down and asked them about their early years. Among the gems - stories about an unauthorized Jeep trip into Nagasaki shortly after the atom bomb, worries about the Japanese reactions as they entered Tokyo Harbor (his ship was one of the first in line to enter), impressions of Japanese military facilities, dinner in the home of his Japanese counterpart (Dad was a Naval Meteorologist, so he located the chief Meteorologist in Tokyo to see how they did things there), and all sorts of other cool stories. He died several years ago, and there are so many more things I wish I could have asked as I went through his photos (he was also the ship's photographer, so I inherited the largest collection of photos from that ship in existence).
Stephen thats a treasure trove of pictures to have and those stories are amazing to keep for future generatons... the only thing my mom has from her child hood is a picture of her mom... when the US Army showed up at their house/farm and told them to get out off their house they grabed what ever they could wrapped them in a blanket and left... I believe they were forward observers because my mom said they were setting up alot of radios and talking on them when they left.... they hiked to the next town for the night about 5 miles away... the next day my grandfather returned to the house only to find it completly destroyed as my mom put it a big hole in the ground.... so from there they started trekking south...
Yea seige that is a long long way especially on foot when i was a kid we took the train and i thought it was a long ride... my mom said it took them almost 6 months to get there... and since you'v been there you know how cold it gets there during the fall and winter months... brrrrrrrrr..... just thinking about it........
I can't even begin to imagine doing that. How old was your mum and her sibs? And how demoralizing to do it while knowing your home and all your possessions are completely gone. I rode the train from Seoul to Pusan and back. It *was* indeed a long ride :o And to think of them doing that during cold weather? Crikey. I had an awesome huge puffy down coat that I bought when I was there because it was so freaking cold, but there was one day that such a bitter wind was blowing I was *still* cold. And it was a really warm coat--I let a friend borrow it when she went to Siberia and she said it kept her warm and toasty the whole time she was there. :-\
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Yea seige that is a long long way especially on foot when i was a kid we took the train and i thought it was a long ride... my mom said it took them almost 6 months to get there... and since you'v been there you know how cold it gets there during the fall and winter months... brrrrrrrrr..... just thinking about it........
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I can't even begin to imagine doing that. How old was your mum and her sibs? And how demoralizing to do it while knowing your home and all your possessions are completely gone. I rode the train from Seoul to Pusan and back. It *was* indeed a long ride :o And to think of them doing that during cold weather? Crikey. I had an awesome huge puffy down coat that I bought when I was there because it was so freaking cold, but there was one day that such a bitter wind was blowing I was *still* cold. And it was a really warm coat--I let a friend borrow it when she went to Siberia and she said it kept her warm and toasty the whole time she was there. :-\
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Seige my mom was 13 her youngest brother was 9 i only know her oldest sister was 17 so the other sisters were in between the two.. the oldest of the bunch was her brother who was already in the ROK army fighting so i dont know his age at the time... but i do know the walk was heck on them she tells of a time they walked past a train that had been hit by fighters/bombers either way it was completely destroyed and the causalties who were all civilians were atrocious she said they were like broke sticks all over the ground by the train most of the causalties were just broken pieces of people... she said she realized than shortly after they left that things were never going to be the same and that her family was all they had... she said her dad was very serious about what to do and they listened and did what they were told..
and yes it was cold she will still talk about how cold it was and to this day my parents wont run their AC in the house.. lucky they live in San Diego.... LOL... the house is almost 35 years old with an ac unit that has never been turned on.... ^-^
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Seige my mom was 13 her youngest brother was 9 i only know her oldest sister was 17 so the other sisters were in between the two.. the oldest of the bunch was her brother who was already in the ROK army fighting so i dont know his age at the time... but i do know the walk was heck on them she tells of a time they walked past a train that had been hit by fighters/bombers either way it was completely destroyed and the causalties who were all civilians were atrocious she said they were like broke sticks all over the ground by the train most of the causalties were just broken pieces of people... she said she realized than shortly after they left that things were never going to be the same and that her family was all they had... she said her dad was very serious about what to do and they listened and did what they were told..
and yes it was cold she will still talk about how cold it was and to this day my parents wont run their AC in the house.. lucky they live in San Diego.... LOL... the house is almost 35 years old with an ac unit that has never been turned on.... ^-^
Wow--that sounds pretty horrific, especially for a child. I had a friend whose mum was held in a Japanese POW camp from the time she was 5 until 8 years of age (her father had been a Dutch official in the West Indies, IIRC). I knew not to mention anything about Japan or Japanese anything--it would just set her off. I don't think anyone really gets over something like that, esp. when it happens when they are younger. I can't imagine the stress of your mum's parents and the weight of responsibility that they must have felt....