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: Ebola Field Report from folks who are there
: Stephen July 08, 2014, 03:43:32 PM
I'd like to start this thread to pass along first-hand reports (OK, it's second hand since it goes through me) from some folks who are in the area where the Ebola virus is currently active. I am vice-president of a non-profit corporation that provides financial and logistical support for missionaries stationed in Sierra Leone, West Africa. They are in a small village that is at the site of a gold mining operation. There is both informal gold mining and a large European mining operation there. When they have access to the web (usually through a connection in the office at the mine), they send me reports of what is going on there, and I send them news reports that I find. Just like in America, the government of Sierra Leone routinely down-plays the story or even denies there is a problem - especially if there is an election coming up (sound familiar?), so news reports really are "news" even to those who are the "boots on the ground."

Here's a brief note from this morning's email:
Also - to keep you informed there's now one confirmed Ebola death in Bo.  The man traveled to and back from a heavily effected area and, gee, some how managed to bring it back with him.  There are "screening check points" but if one gets to the check point before the heath screening begins for the day - one passes on his merry way.  Or if you are screened and have not fever, you travel on.  Oh well.

I'll also post some previous reports if there is an interest here.
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: -> Bear July 08, 2014, 05:00:02 PM
I'm interested.
   Add a checkmark for me.

I do think its going to be spread farther than where its at. And a weaponised form will also be "tested" and used eventually if it ain't all ready.
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: Stephen July 08, 2014, 05:16:42 PM
Following is a notice that they received from the U.S. Embassy.

U.S. Embassy Freetown, Sierra Leone

Security Message for U.S. Citizens: Update on Ebola Virus Disease (EVD)

June 13, 2014


This is an update to the notice of June 6, 2014, in which we alerted U.S. citizens to the outbreak of Ebola Virus Disease (EVD) in Sierra Leone.  As of June 13, there are 43 confirmed Ebola cases with 16 fatalities.  All of these cases can be traced back to contact with individuals in Kailahun District, near the Guinea border.


The Government of Sierra Leone is implementing new surveillance, detection, reporting, and prevention measures as part of a more robust national strategy in addressing the outbreak of the EVD.


A number of these measures only apply to Kailahun District, the epicenter of the EVD outbreak:

1.    Passengers entering and leaving Kailahun District will be screened at health checkpoints.

2.    All schools will be closed in Kailahun District.  Alternate arrangements are being made for students taking the upcoming National Basic Education Examination (BECE).

3.    Public gatherings will be prohibited. This includes gatherings at cinemas, cultural activities, and night clubs.



Other measures will apply across the country:

1.    Cross-border trade fairs (known locally as “Lumors”) will be temporarily closed.

2.    Any person with symptoms of EVD must be reported to the appropriate community health professional.

3.    All deaths must be reported and certified by an authorized health professional prior to burial.

4.    All EVD related deaths must be buried at the place of occurrence under the supervision of health personnel.

Contracting the virus can be avoided through practicing good preventative measures.  The virus is easily killed by contact with soap, bleach, sunlight, or drying.  You will not contract EVD if you are not in contact with the body fluids of someone who is ill with EVD or the corpse of someone who has died of EVD.  Also avoid bat and primate (bush) meat as it can transmit EVD to humans.

The U.S. Embassy is open for business as usual, including the consular section.


For more information:

· Continue to visit the U.S. Embassy Freetown website and Facebook page for regular updates.

· Visit the World Health Organization website.

· Visit the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention website.

We strongly recommend that U.S. citizens traveling to or residing in Sierra Leone enroll in the Department of State’s Smart Traveler Enrollment Program (STEP).  STEP enrollment gives you the latest security updates, and makes it easier for the U.S. embassy or nearest U.S. consulate to contact you in an emergency. If you don’t have Internet access, enroll directly with the nearest U.S. embassy or consulate.

Contact the U.S. embassy for up-to-date information on travel restrictions by visiting the U.S. Embassy Freetown website. You can also get global updates at the U.S. Department of State Bureau of Consular Affairs website, where you can find the current Worldwide Caution, Travel Warnings, Travel Alerts, and Country Specific Information.  If you don't have internet access, you can get current information on safety and security by calling 1-888-407-4747 toll-free in the United States, or for callers from other countries, a regular toll line at 1-202-501-4444.  These numbers are available from 8:00 a.m. to 8:00 p.m. Eastern Time, Monday through Friday (except U.S. federal holidays). Also follow us on Twitter and Facebook.

The U.S. Embassy in Freetown is located at Leicester Square, Regent. If you have questions or concerns about safety or related issues, contact the consular section at the Embassy by sending an email to consularfreetown@state.gov or calling 232(76) 515-000 or 076-515-000.  For after- hours emergencies, please call Tel:  232-(76) 515-000 or 076-515-000.
: Re: Ebola Field Report from folks who are there
: Stephen July 08, 2014, 05:31:20 PM
Following is a prayer letter that went out to supporting churches:


Following is a message from the missionaries to the church and supporters:

Tuesday June 17, 2014

To our praying friends:

Undoubtedly many of you have heard news regarding the recent outbreak of the Ebola virus in West African countries.  We have hesitated to generally request prayer for this because we weren’t directly effected by it and didn’t want to cause undue alarm.  It was hoped that the virus would be quickly contained in Guinea, the country where the outbreak started.  Unfortunately that is not the case and we now feel that the time has come to ask you, our prayer partners, to bring this matter before the Throne of Grace.

After beginning in a remote area of southern Guinea the virus crossed the borders of Liberia and Sierra Leone.  People in the region are fairly transient and the borders are porous facilitating the spread of the virus. Ebola has now reached Kenema, a large town about 4 hours to our south-east.  You may recall from Field Reports that this town is on our evangelism circuit.  This is also the town where our son John attends school.  He is currently home and has given us the report of general panic as there have been several deaths from the Ebola virus.  Medical personnel have confirmed the deaths to be from Ebola but it is not being reported on the radio or in other media as yet.  Some consideration was given to the possible closing of schools in Kenema as there remains only four weeks to this academic year but as of Tuesday the decision has been made for the schools to remain open.  John returns to Kenema on Wednesday.  Fortunately, because he’s in SS-3 (equivalent to 12th grade) he will only have one week of exams and then will return to Baomahun.

___ and ___ along with one or two students had planned to travel Kono district in the extreme east of Sierra Leone.  This was a reconnaissance trip to make necessary arrangements to add this heavily Muslim region to the evangelism circuit next dry season.  It is also very close to the area where the Ebola virus crossed into Sierra Leone so it was decided it would be in the best interest of everyone involved to not make this trip.

We want to stress that there’s no cause for alarm.  Ebola can be easily contained through quick prudent actions.  The main problem here is the horrendous personal hygiene and lack of community sanitation.  Further complicating the issue is people’s reliance on traditional medicine (witch doctors, black magic etc.)  Many are denying that there’s even an Ebola virus at all and therefore take no precautions.  Others die in remote villages without going to a health post so the spread goes unreported.

Two years ago Sierra Leone had a cholera epidemic.  It also happened to be just a few months before the presidential election which didn’t look good for the incumbent who was up for re-election.  The government imposed a news blackout regarding the epidemic and told hospitals, clinics, and health posts to STOP reporting the number of deaths.  The government also impounded all available doxycyline, the preferred antibiotic used to treat cholera, and hoarded it in Freetown making it unavailable to small clinics such as the one in our town.  Our medical officer was unable to adequately treat the sick and many died.  Consequently we’re a bit suspicious as to why the Ebola deaths in Kenema are not being publicly reported.  Bo is the next large town from Kenema.  Please pray that it doesn’t reach Bo as it is a main hub for country-wide travel as well as travel to Liberia.  But with the rains we won’t be traveling much and will be extra cautious with physical contact.  Thank you for praying; it’s greatly appreciated.  We’re well and still having fun.
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: -> Bear July 09, 2014, 10:16:01 AM
Good info.  Stephen thx.
: Re: Ebola Field Report from folks who are there
: Stephen July 15, 2014, 09:05:20 AM
Another update from the folks in Sierra Leone received this morning:

"Ebola is much worse than the governments are acknowledging. We have information from a very reliable source who works for the mining company. He's currently stationed in Liberia and Ivory Coast but just made a brief trip here. He said it's very serious but no one is talkiing about it. That was the same reaction to the civil wars in both countries. Don't talk about it, maybe it will go away. We are now having difficulty getting meds as the pharmacies are not getting deliveries. We have nearly two years' supply of doxy (malaria prophylaxis and cholera treatment). We're quietly stocking non-perishables along with rice and dried beans and fuel. Once people really realize what's happening they'll hit panic and nothing will be available. We have exit plan in place should it come to that or if our gvt embassy orders "non-essential personnel" to leave."

They also asked that I continue sending them news reports - internet is very becoming "more cumbersome, but not impossible."

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: Stephen July 15, 2014, 09:34:17 AM
Just received another update (actually, it was probably sent at about the same time as the previous one).

Okay - I trust our government more than the SL gvt but... I just tried to link to an article dated July 2 which was critical of the US gvt not issuing travel warnings due to Ebola. Mysteriously the link has been removed and cannot connect. CDC web site has not been updated since mid june and the outbreak is rapidly increasing. We've not received anything from the US Embassy since June 18. Hmmmm... I get the distinct impression that we're not getting the full story. Thought you'd like to know!

Keep in mind that internet is pretty shaky over there, so it's possible that this is nothing more than a series of bad connections. OK, not likely, but possible.

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: Bumbury July 15, 2014, 11:18:07 AM
Stephen glade for the info your providing... its gonna be good to get 1st hand info...
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: siege571 July 16, 2014, 02:13:16 AM
  
Just received another update (actually, it was probably sent at about the same time as the previous one).

Okay - I trust our government more than the SL gvt but... I just tried to link to an article dated July 2 which was critical of the US gvt not issuing travel warnings due to Ebola. Mysteriously the link has been removed and cannot connect. CDC web site has not been updated since mid june and the outbreak is rapidly increasing. We've not received anything from the US Embassy since June 18. Hmmmm... I get the distinct impression that we're not getting the full story. Thought you'd like to know!

Keep in mind that internet is pretty shaky over there, so it's possible that this is nothing more than a series of bad connections. OK, not likely, but possible.

As far as not receiving messages from the US embassy in SL goes, your colleagues may be subscribed to only certain kinds of messages that go out to US citizens in SL. There have definitely been updates since June 18--there were updates on the embassy site on June 24, June 28, and a couple days ago on July 14. Have them check the site and make sure they are getting all the latest info:
http://freetown.usembassy.gov/

Other recent ebola updates:

CDC July 6 update
http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/outbreaks/guinea/

WHO July 7 update
http://www.who.int/csr/don/2014_07_07_ebola/en/

TEPHINET July 15 update
http://www.tephinet.org/aggregator

And my fave for keeping up with germs around the world--it's updated nearly every day. Your colleagues can subscribe and get an e-mail digest sent to them every day or so if they don't want the hassle of going to the website. They collect from all sources--WHO, CDC, MSF, NGOs, national governments, individuals, etc.
http://www.promedmail.org/
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: Stephen July 18, 2014, 10:32:01 AM
U.S. Embassy Freetown, Sierra Leone

Security Message for U.S. Citizens: Update on Ebola Virus Disease (EVD)

July 15, 2014

This is an update to the notice of June 13, 2014, in which we alerted U.S. citizens to the outbreak of Ebola Virus Disease (EVD) in Sierra Leone. As of July 15, there are 369 confirmed Ebola cases with 118 confirmed fatalities. Sixty individuals have survived. All of these cases can be traced back to contact with individuals in Kailahun District, near the Guinea border.

The Government of Sierra Leone established an Emergency Operations Center with the World Health Organization. U.S. government experts are assisting the Ministry of Health and Sanitation and the WHO efforts. Please be aware that surveillance, detection, reporting, and prevention measures are critical to ending the outbreak and cooperate with local authorities implementing them. The Government of Sierra Leone also reminded the public that harboring a suspected Ebola case is a crime.

There are increased checkpoints in affected districts, especially Kailahun District, the epicenter of the Ebola Virus Disease outbreak, and Kenema and Bo.

Passengers entering and leaving affected areas will be screened at health checkpoints.

All schools will be closed in Kailahun District. Alternate arrangements are being made for students taking the upcoming National Basic Education Examination (BECE).

Public gatherings will be prohibited. This includes gatherings at cinemas, cultural activities, night clubs, and other public gatherings.


Other measures will apply across the country:

Cross-border trade fairs (known locally as “Lumors”) will be temporarily closed.

Any person with symptoms of EVD must be reported to the appropriate community health professional.

All deaths must be reported and certified by an authorized health professional prior to burial.

All EVD related deaths must be buried at the place of occurrence under the supervision of health personnel.

As a reminder to all U.S. citizens, contracting the virus can be avoided through practicing good preventative measures. The virus is easily killed by contact with soap, bleach, sunlight, or drying. You will not contract EVD if you are not in contact with the body fluids of someone who is ill with EVD or the corpse of someone who has died of EVD. Also avoid bat and primate (bush) meat as it can transmit EVD to humans.

The U.S. Embassy is open for business as usual, including the consular section.


For more information:

Continue to visit the U.S. Embassy Freetown website and Facebook page for regular updates.

Visit the World Health Organization website.

Visit the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention website.

We strongly recommend that U.S. citizens traveling to or residing in Sierra Leone enroll in the Department of State’s Smart Traveler Enrollment Program (STEP) at travel.state.gov. STEP enrollment gives you the latest security updates, and makes it easier for the U.S. Embassy to contact you in an emergency. If you don’t have Internet access, enroll directly with the nearest U.S. embassy or consulate.

Regularly monitor the State Department's website, where you can find current Travel Warnings, Travel Alerts, and the Worldwide Caution. Read the Country Specific Information for Sierra Leone. For additional information, refer to the “Traveler’s Checklist” on the State Department’s website.

The U.S. Embassy in Freetown is located at Leicester Square, Regent. If you have questions or concerns about safety or related issues, contact the consular section at the Embassy by sending an email to consularfreetown@state.gov or calling 232 (76) 515-000 or (076) 515-000. For after- hours emergencies, please call 232 (76) 515-000 or (076) 515-000.
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: Bumbury July 18, 2014, 11:49:14 AM
thanks for the update Stephen
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: Stephen July 18, 2014, 02:38:50 PM
Another update from a prayer letter. Not much new here, but provides some good background.

Most likely many of you have heard news regarding the recent outbreak of the Ebola virus in West African countries.  We have hesitated to generally request prayer for this because we weren’t directly effected by it and didn’t want to cause undue alarm.  It was hoped that the virus would be quickly contained in Guinea, the country where the outbreak started.  Unfortunately that is not the case and Doctors Without Borders along with the World Health Organization have now declared that the virus is “out of control” in the three effected countries: Guinea, Liberia and Sierra Leone.  Fear and ignorance of the dreaded disease are fueling its spread as people seek treatment from “traditional healers” – witchdoctors who themselves then become infected and continue the spread.  People are walking away from quarantine wards preferring to die in their homes.  Churches are harboring patients professing to be able to heal them. Many are claiming that Ebola is a government conspiracy and even saying that it doesn’t actually exist.  Others die in remote villages without going to a health post so the spread goes unreported.  Extremely poor sanitation and personal hygiene also contribute to the spread.

How does Ebola effect us?  By curtailing some scheduled evangelism trips.  In addition to some follow up visits, _____ and I along with two students had planned to travel Kono district in the extreme east of Sierra Leone.  This was to be a reconnaissance trip to make necessary arrangements to add this heavily Muslim region to the evangelism circuit next dry season.  It is also very close to the area where the Ebola virus crossed into Sierra Leone and is now an Ebola “hot spot” so we decided it would be in the best interest of everyone involved to not make this excursion.  As of this writing there has been one confirmed Ebola death in Bo, evidence that the spread is continuing.  We ask you to pray for God’s mercy on these countries mired in spiritual darkness.
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: Bumbury July 18, 2014, 06:08:40 PM
thanks steve.. i think we are going to get a better report from the Dr without boarders than the governments....
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: Stephen July 18, 2014, 07:10:09 PM
  
thanks steve.. i think we are going to get a better report from the Dr without boarders than the governments....
Agreed. Governments always have their agendas. They truly believe that the lies they tell are for the good of the people. I'm not just repeating what others have said either - I've been deeply involved in politics for quite a few years. For the past 19 years, I have made my living providing computer and data services to political campaigns; I've been a candidate, a treasurer, a speech-writer, a convention delegate, and various other positions and activities. If there is one thing that politicians are good at, it is convincing themselves that what they are doing is truly for the good of the people - no matter what it is. Yes, I've found myself doing the same thing - justifying things I've done - much to my shame. That is one reason why I stopped dealing with politics other than having candidates and campaigns as paying customers. It is corrosive to the soul, and no one is immune to the effects that can have. Anyway, enough of all that. Bottom line here is that while most folks look at politicians as evil liars, the fact is that they really do believe what they say, and they really do believe that withholding information is for the good of the people.
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: Bumbury July 18, 2014, 07:58:16 PM
  
  
thanks steve.. i think we are going to get a better report from the Dr without boarders than the governments....
Agreed. Governments always have their agendas. They truly believe that the lies they tell are for the good of the people. I'm not just repeating what others have said either - I've been deeply involved in politics for quite a few years. For the past 19 years, I have made my living providing computer and data services to political campaigns; I've been a candidate, a treasurer, a speech-writer, a convention delegate, and various other positions and activities. If there is one thing that politicians are good at, it is convincing themselves that what they are doing is truly for the good of the people - no matter what it is. Yes, I've found myself doing the same thing - justifying things I've done - much to my shame. That is one reason why I stopped dealing with politics other than having candidates and campaigns as paying customers. It is corrosive to the soul, and no one is immune to the effects that can have. Anyway, enough of all that. Bottom line here is that while most folks look at politicians as evil liars, the fact is that they really do believe what they say, and they really do believe that withholding information is for the good of the people.

steven thanks for the background confession...   :o  ^-^ ^-^... no really i think you can give us a little insight into the political sphere we all well at least me lack any... thanks
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: -> Bear July 20, 2014, 06:56:49 PM
thanks stephen, for the info and the updates ... hope we don't eat any bush meat..
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: Stephen July 27, 2014, 03:09:04 PM
Two of the missionaries at this station have decided to return here to Florida due to the rapidly deteriorating Ebola situation there. One will remain to keep things intact (if all leave, everything would be stripped bare within a few days of their leaving - they've learned that lesson the hard way).

Here's a snip from the email I received a few minutes ago:
It really is becoming ugly.  Soldiers are back in Kenema.  Villages around Kenema are deserted as people flee into the bush rather than submit to Ebola testing.  Rumors are rampant.

Missionaries are classed as "Humanitarian Workers" and are able to purchase airline tickets that are far more flexible than standard airline tickets. We'll be getting tickets for late August, but if the situation changes to make leaving more urgent, we can simply change the date and they still have their tickets as long as there is space available on an earlier flight. I'll post more info as it comes in as long as it isn't confidential.
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: -> Bear July 28, 2014, 09:43:01 AM
Seen the 700 club today and it is getting worse. More and more are getting sick and think it can be contained. But imo it could get in the u.s and europe and asia unknown, and make havok.
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: Tropheus July 29, 2014, 08:11:52 AM
Yes and no. It is only transmitted by fluid transfer between individuals. We in the US are not touchy feely people, we like our personal space, this actually makes us odd compared to everyone else in the world. We also tend to go to the hospital first when we are sick(even if we aren't sick sometimes) which seems to be contrary to what the Africans do. Hospitals have already been alerted and are actively looking for people with signs of fever. We have a fairly efficient system to find people whom we think might be infected. If someone came in on a plane sick, odds are we can find everyone from that plane inside of 24 hours. In the US, the healthcare system is far more advanced than Africa and they only seem to have a 60% mortality rate. Our would likely be much lower. Is this disease a serious concern, of course it is. With us here in FL, I would be far more concerned with MERS, Dengue and the Chickenmaunga(However it is spelled and pronounced). With our high Muslim and international transient population MERS is a real issue and with all the rain we have had and all the standing water around, mosquitoes are swarming. I was outside yesterday and easily killed several dozen of the buggers who had bit me(I have a delayed reaction to mosquito bites and unlike my wife, I don't swell up and have scars for several weeks at a time from a single bite).
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: Stephen August 01, 2014, 09:48:18 AM
I just received a phone call from a missionary in Sierra Leone. We had flights booked for them to leave at the end of August, but we are now rescheduling them for "first available" - hopefully this Monday, even though the President of Sierra Leone has declared it a "No Travel" day. There are now bank runs and general chaos there. Situation is degrading rapidly. I'll be in contact with them later today to work out details.
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: Stephen August 01, 2014, 10:57:11 AM
Bummer - no seats available unless we're willing to pay over $7,000 per person. Looking at other alternatives now.

This is a classic lesson for anyone who pays attention to preparedness. Better to be a year early than a day late. When things start to fall apart, things happen fast and you can't count on what used to be normally available services and infrastructure. Yes, that's Africa. Don't think that America is immune to the same thing no matter what the cause may be. One panic sets in, all bets are off.
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: Stephen August 01, 2014, 03:40:27 PM
Back to "Square One". Since they already have tickets for a flight out at the end of August, they're going to wait it out until then and trust that there will still be flights leaving at that point. That is truly "Bugging In". They are pretty safe while on the compound - it's when they have to go somewhere else that it gets interesting. The main issue is not Ebola, but the way that people and government are reacting to it. The government is issuing all sorts of "New Protocols" but they are so vague that they are meaningless to the people while allowing the police and military to have a free reign to do as they see fit.
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: -> Bear August 01, 2014, 09:38:33 PM
Wow mr Stephen.  Very concerning imo. Prey they stay safe and get out alright.
  And Tropheous imo yes and Noo.
 Most I know shake hands, kids get sick, parents, doctors, and many others are involved.
Infants get sick even now there's not much for them if they get a cold, and runny noses happen, many would be sick. NO CURE... and a Doctor wearing a haz mat suit that knows things gets himself sick ?? Hmmm ...
  And a African doctor that KNOWS the ins and outs of ebola got infected and died. How many use water fountains? A lot. Hotels get "fluids" a lot. Drug needles, a lot of people. And this is comming to Georgia? "Lovers", and others share a cup. Restaraunts share forks for instance. If this hits a large city or gets here we have a RIGHT IMO to Panic, OK and if it starts to spread here I'm going to scream we all sinned, repent now. For a short time.
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: Stephen August 01, 2014, 11:05:36 PM
A couple of random notes here:

1) The reports I'm getting indicate that, contrary to what we're seeing in the news, transmission of the virus is NOT limited to "intimate contact" and "direct contact with mucus membrane and body fluids from an infected person". Now, that doesn't mean that it is transmitted as easily as the flu, but it does mean that it's not like ... well, use your imagination.

2) What they fear more than the virus is the reaction to the virus - the chaos, the government, the military and police, the bank runs, the shortages due to panic buying, etc.  While the actual disease is important, don't lose focus on the effect of masses of panicked people.
: Re: Ebola Field Report from folks who are there
: Bumbury August 02, 2014, 11:58:23 AM
this is a good point Stephen the mass panic will generate more immediate issues short term that could be detramental to the social fabric of a town or a city...  this would immediatly effect the way we do business when or of word gets out...

this possability has me putting a little more effort into some freeze dries stuff and canned goods... also i got more N95's and im looking for a pair of goggles to go with the n95's or some type of eye cover... figure id get them before the rush... i would suggest you do the same
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: myakka August 02, 2014, 12:09:17 PM
Stephen thank you for this inside look.   So much of what is on other boards is politically driven drivel.  Each side spinning it to support their agenda.
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: Bumbury August 02, 2014, 11:06:44 PM
stephen i hope you dont mind me posting this here but i do think its relavent and if anybody see the bigger picture it would be you just because your gettig 1st hand info not the slanted stuff that most of us see like Myakka was talking about...
  i read several articles in referance to the subject of this article but this one seems to be the most complete and quotes several different sources.. One question i do have after reading this article is the fact that of the 100 health aid workers that have become infected are they all western medical staff with the appropriate bio suits... if a persentage arnt than i can see them getting infected BUT if they are than like this article said their is something going on here that the MSM and the governments are are holding back....  One other thing iv read that bothers me is that global health authorities are now sending and getting ready to send ebola patients to hospitals all over the world case in point the US Dr coming to an ATL hospital and now Germany is getting ready to start accepting ebola patients even amongst wide spread fears of the virus getting out of those hospitals... this being contrary to how the virus has been previously treated by keeping it localized....  <thoughts>

read the full article with sub links by using the link below

LINK: http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/more-than-100-health-workers-fighting-ebola-have-contracted-it-themselves?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=more-than-100-health-workers-fighting-ebola-have-contracted-it-themselves

More Than 100 Health Workers Fighting Ebola Have Contracted It Themselves
 By Michael Snyder, on August 1st, 2014
     
Something is different this time.  This is the worst Ebola outbreak in recorded history, and this particular strain appears to be spreading much more easily than others have.  So far, 1,323 people have been infected in the nations of Guinea, Liberia, Nigeria, and Sierra Leone.  Of those 1,323 victims, a whopping 729 of them have died.  But a number that is even more alarming was buried in the middle of a Reuters report on Friday.  According to Reuters, “more than 100 health workers” that have been fighting Ebola in Africa have contracted the virus themselves.  Considering the extraordinary measures that these health workers take to keep from getting the disease, that is quite chilling.  We are not just talking about one or two “accidents”.  We are talking about more than 100 of them getting sick.  If Ebola is spreading this easily among medical professionals in biohazard body suits that keep any air from touching the skin, what chance are the rest of us going to have if this virus gets out into the general population?

In case you are tempted to think that this could not be possible and that I am just exaggerating, here is the relevant part of the Reuters article that I was talking about…

More than 100 health workers have been infected by the viral disease, which has no known cure, including two American medics working for charity Samaritan’s Purse. More than half of those have died, among them Sierra Leone’s leading doctor in the fight against Ebola, Sheik Umar Khan, a national hero.
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: Papaswamp August 03, 2014, 09:28:05 AM
All need to remember...this is an area where sanitation and medical care is extremely poor compared to the US, so the spread is much easier. Additionally, due to the long running of this outbreak, medical workers are beyond overworked and most likely making mistakes/not following protocol closely.

That all said, this bears watching very closely for multiple reasons. The situation emphasizes the importance of sanitation and medical needs in any disaster situation. Modifies decontamination protocols, as well as needed equipment to have on hand. Additionally, it shows how an overworked medical system can begin to fail when taken beyond its capabilities.

It is important to remember this is nature we are dealing with. She loves to mutate and become more efficient. Ebola for all intents and purposes, due its quick immobilization and death of the host, is not an efficient pathogen.  HIV on the other hand is a very efficient. It takes months to years for symptoms to show and thus allows for plenty of spread time.

The worry of course is that either Mother Nature is making Ebola more efficient in its ability to spread (ex. Particulates could be airborne and move outside quarantine zones and/or have long survival rates outside of live host). The other worry is that someone(s) has decided to help Mother Nature along and is modifying the virus. Though many have poo pooed this idea in the past, a recent paper on MERS suggests that new strains of MERS are indeed the work of a more sinister plot (see the MERS discussion). This of course could usher in a whole new situation and would modify peoples preparations substantially.

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: Bumbury August 03, 2014, 09:40:34 AM
swamp i did read the paper on the MERS that is interesting stuff especially considering the the source was a scientific study that examined the different strains that people had gotten infected with.... only thing about this ebola that has most people worried is that the intial symptoms are flu like and has a longer gestation period before killing its host therefore giving the virus time to get around...

i think this is going to have to be something to watch very closely lucky for us we have stephen who has people with boots on the ground around ground zero...

 
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: Papaswamp August 03, 2014, 09:45:52 AM
Bumbury
Absolutely bears watching. If anything, its a great learning lesson in progress. Just remember...Ebola has killed less than 5000 people total, in contrast, Measles ( for which there is a vaccine), killed 164,000 last year (450 in US).
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: -> Bear August 03, 2014, 10:42:22 PM
stephen? hello! you still with us?! Dang, guess not...
    Well imo it is worse for some reason. And not just because of the dead. And now thanks  to bum for the info that over a 100 health workers are sick, something is going on.
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: Stephen August 03, 2014, 11:04:24 PM
  
stephen? hello! you still with us?! Dang, guess not...
    Well imo it is worse for some reason. And not just because of the dead. And now thanks  to bum for the info that over a 100 health workers are sick, something is going on.
Yup - still here.

Is it worse this time? I suspect so, and here's why:

From what I've been seeing as circumstantial evidence and from what I've been hearing from the missionaries over there, it is spreading significantly more easily than what "the experts" claim. That tells me (correctly or not) that it is a different strain / mutation that is increasing the infection rate. Another part of this was pointed out to me earlier today by a relative who is a physician. He mentioned that a big factor is how long the virus can survive outside of its host. For example, HIV dies almost immediately once it is outside its host while Hepatitis B can survive for up to two weeks on a dry surface, making it much more dangerous virus as far as transmission rate. If Ebola has mutated such that it can survive outside the body longer than previous strains, then that could explain higher infection rates. Also, Ebola produces explosive diarrhea and vomiting - a very useful trait from the virus standpoint.

It is in a different part of Africa than previously. In the past, the outbreaks had been in East Africa. Exactly what the ramifications of that shift are, I don't know. It might be nothing at all. How did it spread?

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: -> Bear August 04, 2014, 12:00:17 AM
Glad your still reporting with the living Mr S.
  I have only my wild thoughts. And like you can only fathom that this has changed and we are not being told everythin' my hat is getting hot. And maybe the doc and nurse are coming to be lab rats and help get a handle on the situation.
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: siege571 August 04, 2014, 12:27:26 AM
It always helps to read the source articles instead of relying on uneducated opinion pieces from people like the ones at "the end of the American dream." It's not the first time they've done something like take a bit of information out of context and turn it into some kind of conspiratorial horror story.

Here is the actual Reuters article that discusses the 100 infected health care workers. You might want to read it. It explains a lot about how 100 workers might get infected. I don't believe there's any big conspiracy.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/08/01/us-health-ebola-healthworkers-idUSKBN0G14FR20140801
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: Bumbury August 05, 2014, 12:07:37 AM
  
It always helps to read the source articles instead of relying on uneducated opinion pieces from people like the ones at "the end of the American dream." It's not the first time they've done something like take a bit of information out of context and turn it into some kind of conspiratorial horror story.

Here is the actual Reuters article that discusses the 100 infected health care workers. You might want to read it. It explains a lot about how 100 workers might get infected. I don't believe there's any big conspiracy.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/08/01/us-health-ebola-healthworkers-idUSKBN0G14FR20140801

I do agree that their isn't any conspiracy or anything like that here i think their is more going on than what we might understand or have recognize... its funny that the workers there are talking about the suits not being of sufficient or proper thickness... "to flimsy" yet the WHO "the politicians" are blaming the carelessness and inexperience of the workers...  i don't think the workers are being careless they see directly the effects of the virus and would be extra carefull to keep the virus off them.. now i can believe the system their using is failing them......  but like the article said half of the 100 have died so their is something different this time... not a conspiracy but something...  but the one thing that's got alot of people confused is why they are transporting people with the virus out of the region like to the U.S and soon to Germany.. this is a new tactic from the other Ebola outbreaks that had a policy of quarantine and isolation....

on another note have you left yet or are you already there.... like Admiral Nimitz said when looking for Halsey.... "where is.. repeat.. where is Task Force 34? The world wonders....
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: Papaswamp August 05, 2014, 06:44:11 AM
According to the CDC ebola can survive 1-2 days outside the body if conditions are right. The question may be has this changed to longer survival? I dont think we will see an panic unless a locally acquired patient shows up. I suspect though that would be kept as quiet as possible. 
: Re: Ebola Field Report from folks who are there
: siege571 August 06, 2014, 12:44:43 AM
  
  
It always helps to read the source articles instead of relying on uneducated opinion pieces from people like the ones at "the end of the American dream." It's not the first time they've done something like take a bit of information out of context and turn it into some kind of conspiratorial horror story.

Here is the actual Reuters article that discusses the 100 infected health care workers. You might want to read it. It explains a lot about how 100 workers might get infected. I don't believe there's any big conspiracy.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/08/01/us-health-ebola-healthworkers-idUSKBN0G14FR20140801

I do agree that their isn't any conspiracy or anything like that here i think their is more going on than what we might understand or have recognize... its funny that the workers there are talking about the suits not being of sufficient or proper thickness... "to flimsy" yet the WHO "the politicians" are blaming the carelessness and inexperience of the workers...  i don't think the workers are being careless they see directly the effects of the virus and would be extra carefull to keep the virus off them.. now i can believe the system their using is failing them......  but like the article said half of the 100 have died so their is something different this time... not a conspiracy but something...  but the one thing that's got alot of people confused is why they are transporting people with the virus out of the region like to the U.S and soon to Germany.. this is a new tactic from the other Ebola outbreaks that had a policy of quarantine and isolation....

on another note have you left yet or are you already there.... like Admiral Nimitz said when looking for Halsey.... "where is.. repeat.. where is Task Force 34? The world wonders....

As far as health care personnel getting infected goes...All these health care workers who have been infected are not infectious disease specialists--just a few. With the exception of one or two, they are all from the countries in which the outbreaks are occurring. Personnel are stretched thin and pretty tired, so they make more mistakes. Some don't have proper equipment. The 3 countries currently involved spend between $8 and $14 dollars per year per person on health care. It is not a great place to be if you're sick.

Some health care pros have treated people before realizing the patient might have ebola. People that work with infected individuals day in and day out are stand a good chance of being infected. They may be unknowingly infected by other health care workers while not in protective gear. This outbreak is different b/c for the first time it's in a region with a highly mobile populace. That means people are traveling to areas where there is no outbreak and seeking care from health care workers who do not suspect ebola until it's too late.

Since previous outbreaks have been located in remote regions, the virus "burned out" before many people could be infected. Now there is a much larger outbreak and many more health care pros are involved. That's the "something" that's different this time. And if 50% of the 100 infected health care workers have died, there's nothing unusual about that, either.

There are a couple different reasons why people are being "transported" back to their home countries. For the couple of Americans in particular, they work for Samaritan's Purse (SP), not the government. SP has every right to bring back Americans to America for treatment. It's not the fed government making this decision. If an organization or government gets a reputation of not taking care of their employees, no one will do the dirty work. It's like emergency medical services. When your own people go down, you take care of them first. It's something you need to do.

The two that were brought back by SP are special. A company called MAPP sent an experimental treatment for the two SP workers. They experienced a pretty miraculous recovery, esp. the guy and were well enough to transport back to the US. It's a pretty freaking exciting development.

BTW, I'm in the middle of the US. About to continue my journey after a break. Going to a fair and demolition derby in CO in a couple days.  :)  A couple days ago I had some totally awesome authentic German food, complete with the polka band. Then I had some totally awesome Mexican food complete with the hombre on the guitar. Today I had some totally awesome steak in a turn of the century building. I'm just eating my way across America!
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: Stephen August 10, 2014, 05:17:18 PM
This just in from the U.S. Embassy in Sierra Leone. There was more in an email, but I'll have to post that part later.

The U.S. Department of State warns U.S. citizens against non-essential travel to Liberia.  After review of health conditions, the U.S. Department of State ordered the departure of family members residing with Embassy staff in Monrovia to begin August 8, 2014.  U.S. government employees in Liberia will remain on active duty at the Embassy and additional staff are being deployed to assist the Government of Liberia in addressing the Ebola Virus Disease outbreak.

In May 2014, a case of Ebola Virus Disease (EVD) was confirmed in Liberia, marking the first case in a second wave of the EVD outbreak. Since then, EVD has continued to spread and intensify. The latest wave of the outbreak has overwhelmed Liberia's health system and most health facilities lack sufficient staff or resources to address the continuing transmission of EVD.  Options for obtaining routine medical care are severely limited.  For more information concerning EVD, please visit the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention website.  Please direct inquiries regarding U.S. citizens in Liberia to EbolaEmergencyUSC@state.gov. Callers in the United States and Canada may dial the toll free number 1-888-407-4747.  Callers outside the United States and Canada may dial 1-202-501-4444.

If you arrive in Liberia and subsequently need routine or emergency medical care, you should expect limited, if any, options.  Travelers are advised that air carriers chartered by medical evacuation insurance companies may not be able to provide timely services in Liberia or the region.  Policyholders should confirm the availability of medical evacuation services prior to travel.  While commercial flights are still available from Monrovia, some airlines have discontinued service and flights may become more difficult to obtain.  If you plan to visit Liberia despite this warning, you should purchase travel insurance that includes medical evacuation, and confirm that the coverage applies to the circumstances in Liberia.

The Department of State urges those U.S. citizens who decide to travel to or remain in Liberia despite this Travel Warning to provide their current contact information through the Smart Traveler Enrollment Program (STEP).  STEP enrollment gives you the latest security updates, and makes it easier for the nearest U.S. embassy or consulate to contact you in an emergency.  If you don¿t have Internet access, enroll directly with the nearest U.S. embassy or consulate.

Regularly monitor the State Department's website, where you can find current Travel Warnings, Travel Alerts, and the Worldwide Caution.  Read the Country Specific Information for Liberia.  For additional information, refer to the Traveler's Checklist on the State Department¿s website.

Check U.S. Embassy Monrovia¿s website for up-to-date messages to U.S. citizens.  You can also call 1-888-407-4747 toll-free in the United States and Canada or 1-202-501-4444 from other countries.  These numbers are available from 8:00 a.m. to 8:00 p.m. Eastern Time, Monday through Friday (except U.S. federal holidays).  Follow us on Twitter and Facebook to have travel information at your fingertips.

U.S. Embassy Monrovia is located at 502 Benson St, Mamba Point.  Telephone: +231 (0)77-677-7000.  Emergency after-hours telephone: +231 (0)77-677-7000.
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: -> Bear August 10, 2014, 06:50:12 PM
Thx mr S. Hope your personal stay safe.
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: Stephen August 12, 2014, 02:19:19 PM
They are safe at this point, but their thinking now is that things are changing so rapidly that if it continues at this pace, they will not be allowed to leave as scheduled on AUG 25. There is a rumor floating around Sierra Leone that the government is planning a 21-day absolute no-travel order - total lock-down. The thinking is that any exposure cases will become full blown Ebola so they can isolate and contain. Absolutely impossible though - he was talking to someone in Bo (fairly large city in Sierra Leone), and that guy didn't even think that Ebola is real. Given that attitude in the city, there is no way you could even get word of it out into the remote areas. It's not like they can just announce it on TV or anything like that. Just getting the word out is virtually impossible. Strange place and I'm glad I'm here and not there.
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: Stephen August 20, 2014, 06:04:34 PM
Received this morning from the missionaries in Sierra Leone:

1.  Border with Liberia being defended by armed Liberian military with shoot on sight orders for those who are seeking to cross illegally from Sierra Leone.  These illegals include sick people attempting to cross to family.
2.  SL government requisitioning private vehicles from mining and other companies for the purpose of patient and personnel transport.  The mining company in our town has delivered one vehicle to Bo for such use.
3.  Cinemas and other places of public gathering in our town being told not to operate.  This order has been in place for some time in affected areas but is now being generally implemented.
4.  Schools will not open in September.  Currently the aim is for them to open in November which in reality means at the earliest it will be January.
5.  We have been unable for two weeks to contact brethren of Emmanuel Star Baptist Church in Kenema.  Please urgently pray for them as this is one of the hardest hit areas and is now sealed from the rest of the country.  We have no way to know how they are doing.
6.  UN is supplying food shipments to the quarantine areas of Sierra Leone.  Our understanding from news is that it is only in SL but that could be incorrect.
7.  Increase of 100 deaths in one day collectively in the four affected countries.

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My comments:

The situation is clearly spinning out of control. Conversations with the missionaries indicates that the rate of change is increasing daily such that they just don't know what will happen one day to the next. The nightmare scenario for them is to be caught at a checkpoint with any kind of fever resulting in being sent to a quarantine facility in Africa. That's almost a death sentence.

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: Bumbury August 20, 2014, 06:55:04 PM
Steven thanks for the update.... It looks like the virus will be getting out of the african continent at this rate and it'll be heading for the EU.....
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: Stephen August 20, 2014, 07:37:32 PM
  
Steven thanks for the update.... It looks like the virus will be getting out of the african continent at this rate and it'll be heading for the EU.....
That could certainly happen, but unless there is a major change in the DNA of the virus, it won't have much of an impact once it gets out of Africa. Cultural practices (like nothing a civilized Western man can even imagine) are what is causing the spread in Africa. Drop the same number of infected people in typical America, and it would most likely end with no more than a handful of additional cases. Africans generally have absolutely no concept of personal hygiene and cleanliness. The governments have tried hard to get them to adopt what we consider the bare minimum levels of sanitary practices, but they refuse. It isn't a matter of simple ignorance (lack of knowledge) it is willful ignorance (having the information available but refusing to use it). also known as stupidity. It is found throughout the African continent, as well as in Washington D.C.
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: KODIAK August 20, 2014, 08:37:18 PM
Praying for your friends.

However, I think it is past time to worry about the rest of the world. We need to fix our own problems first. America has too many hungry kids and old people. Too many living in poverty. I'm talking about the ones who cannot help themselves.
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: Stephen August 20, 2014, 08:48:17 PM
  
Praying for your friends.

However, I think it is past time to worry about the rest of the world. We need to fix our own problems first. America has too many hungry kids and old people. Too many living in poverty. I'm talking about the ones who cannot help themselves.
Thanks for the prayers - they are needed.

You might be confusing what we do with the "do gooders" that call themselves missionaries. We are there for one purpose only - to spread the Gospel of Jesus Christ. We don't give them stuff, we just do what The Bible says we are to do.
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: Bumbury August 21, 2014, 10:54:44 AM
  
  
Praying for your friends.

However, I think it is past time to worry about the rest of the world. We need to fix our own problems first. America has too many hungry kids and old people. Too many living in poverty. I'm talking about the ones who cannot help themselves.
Thanks for the prayers - they are needed.

You might be confusing what we do with the "do gooders" that call themselves missionaries. We are there for one purpose only - to spread the Gospel of Jesus Christ. We don't give them stuff, we just do what The Bible says we are to do.

Stephen its a tough job but a godly one thanks for your efforts to get the word and god bless your people on the front lines... our prayers with you and your people... I'll put your organization on our church prayer list and my father in laws prayer chain...  THANKS......!
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: Stephen August 21, 2014, 11:42:36 AM
  
  
  
Praying for your friends.

However, I think it is past time to worry about the rest of the world. We need to fix our own problems first. America has too many hungry kids and old people. Too many living in poverty. I'm talking about the ones who cannot help themselves.
Thanks for the prayers - they are needed.

You might be confusing what we do with the "do gooders" that call themselves missionaries. We are there for one purpose only - to spread the Gospel of Jesus Christ. We don't give them stuff, we just do what The Bible says we are to do.

Stephen its a tough job but a godly one thanks for your efforts to get the word and gold bless your people on the front lines... our prayers with you and your people... I'll put your organization on our church prayer list and my father in laws prayer chain...  THANKS......!

Thank you, sir. I'll take this opportunity to say that, for three of our missionaries, August 25 and 26 are very critical days. If something goes wrong during those two days, the consequences could be quite serious. This just applies to them - nothing special about the overall situation there, just what they will be doing. Beyond the need for prayer, the less said about that, the better. I might be able to fill in some details later on, but not now.
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: Stephen August 24, 2014, 03:25:41 PM
The airline they were scheduled on just announced yesterday that they have canceled all flights in or out of Sierra Leone. They were scheduled to leave tomorrow. At this point, they are trapped there (neighboring country has posted troops along the border with "shoot on sight" orders for anyone trying to cross the border). The situation is not looking good at all. Hopefully we will have a better idea of what, if any, alternatives there may be to get them out of there. There is a possibility that this is just a temporary measure.
: Re: Ebola Field Report from folks who are there
: Bumbury August 31, 2014, 08:55:01 AM
steven just wondering if you'v heard anything about your people and if them managed to get out out of the area?

Also im adding this here since this is the most up to date thread on the virus....

Ebola Spreads to 6th Country
Aug 30, 2014
Between Aug 24-29, 2014, AlertsUSA issued the following
related Flash message to subscriber mobile devices:
8/29 - WHO: Ebola spreading fast. Senegal confirms first case. More cases rptd in past week than any other since crisis began. 40% total cases rptd in past 3 weeks.

8/28 - State Dept warns of incr in screening of travelers from/thru Ebola affected regions. Implications incl no fly, forced quarantine and 21 day travel bans.

8/25 - Heads Up: The CDC has just issued formal guidance to U.S. hospitals and mortuaries nationwide on the safe handling of human remains of Ebola patients.

8/25 - WHO issues dire situation assessment re Ebola outbreak and "unprecedented" proportion of medical staff infected. Warns heavy toll will impede control efforts.

8/24 - WHO formally announces Ebola outbreak in Democratic Rep. of Congo. 5th country. Different strain than that circulating in current W. Africa outbreak.

What You Need to Know
On five occasions this week AlertsUSA subscribers were notified via text messages to their mobile devices regarding new warnings and actions by U.S. and world health authorities regarding the rapidly accelerating spread of the Ebola virus.

On Sunday, the World Health Organization (WHO) formally announced a new Ebola outbreak in Democratic Rep. of Congo, the second largest country in Africa. This is reported to be a different strain of the virus than that currently spreading in Liberia, Sierra Leone, Guinea and Nigeria.

On Monday, the WHO released a detailed situation assessment and warning statement, calling the outbreak in West Africa "unprecedented in many ways", including the high proportion of doctors, nurses, and other health care workers who have been infected. To date, more than 240 health care workers have become infected and more than 120 have died.

According to the situation assessment:

"The fact that so many medical staff have developed the disease increases the level of anxiety: if doctors and nurses are getting infected, what chance does the general public have?"

Also on Monday, in preparation for the eventual arrival of Ebola cases here in the U.S., the Centers for Disease Control issued formal guidance to hospitals and mortuaries across the U.S. on the safe handling of human remains of Ebola patients. Given the highly infectious nature of the remains, the recommended methods of disposal are immediate cremation or placement within hermitically sealed containers. While not specifically spelled out in this document, it is highly unlikely that infected remains, in any form, would ever be released to families for normal funeral rites.

On Thursday, Senegal reported their first case of Ebola. By Saturday, another 20 cases were suspected.

Late this week the U.S. State department issued a cautionary statement warning U.S. citizens traveling abroad that they may be subject to increased screening procedures, travel restrictions, and reduced aviation transportation options in response to the outbreak of Ebola Virus Disease. If you are traveling abroad either to or thru the affected region, or anywhere else really, you may be required to undergo health screenings, be forced into quarantine or even restricted from traveling for up to 21 days, depending on the nature of the immediate threat or the decision of the foreign health agency.

And the State Department rightfully makes clear that neither the Department of State’s Bureau of Consular Affairs, nor the U.S. Embassies, have any authority over quarantine issues and cannot prevent a U.S. citizen from being quarantined should local health authorities require it.

Keep this in mind if traveling overseas. If you happen to be on a plane and a few of the passengers become ill such that foreign health authorities get involved, it is not unrealistic that you could be detained.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-28922290

http://www.who.int/mediacentre/news/ebola/25-august-2014/en/

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-28983554

Also as a side note we started to ship these kits out of our freight facility the past couple of days and it's got people worried it's like what the heck... reality hitting them in the face.... the ones pictured here are going to africa but we'v also got kits going to london, brussels, frankfurt, and paris..  we''v also sent them to a few domestic destinations like NYC, Boston and DC....they'r originating from a company in los angeles and we'r forwarding them from here in Miami...

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: Stephen August 31, 2014, 09:07:59 AM
Yes, thanks for asking. In fact, they are in the air right now. They caught "the last plane out"  yesterday. We pick them up at the airport tonight. There is one still remaining there to "hold down the fort", so it's not over yet for us. I should have some pretty good information once I have the time to just sit down and talk with them for a while.
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: Bumbury August 31, 2014, 09:13:48 AM
  
Yes, thanks for asking. In fact, they are in the air right now. They caught "the last plane out"  yesterday. We pick them up at the airport tonight. There is one still remaining there to "hold down the fort", so it's not over yet for us. I should have some pretty good information once I have the time to just sit down and talk with them for a while.

Glad to hear that... prayers answered.. looking forward to seeing what they have to say...
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: Stephen September 12, 2014, 06:36:30 PM
OK, time for an update.

Two of the missionaries were finally able to make it home OK. One still remains in Sierra Leone to "hold down the fort." One of the missionaries is staying with my wife and I during a 21-day voluntary quarantine. My wife and I are also observing a semi-quarantine in that we are avoiding crowds or anywhere we come into close contact with anyone else. The missionary is doing a temperature check 4 times per day and recording everything. Log is kept of any visitors (who all maintain a minimum 3' distance per CDC recommendations). Basically, we're just following all of the CDC recommendations even though they are not involved at all (remember, this is strictly a voluntary quarantine - all screenings were passed OK). We are all doing just fine, so we're just counting down the days at this point.

Here are some items of interest:

1) Information is not getting to those in the field. The local Medical Officer is not getting any information other than what he is getting from our remaining missionary, who gets his information from email and chat and phone calls from here. It's absolutely mind-boggling to know that in the middle of the most serious epidemics in recent history, the medical personnel in the field are having to rely on some folks here in Central Florida to learn that the Dutch-run hospital there has been shut down for decontamination, that Ebola has appeared in the next town over, that researchers are now considering the possibility that Ebola can be spread through the air, etc. Africa is just the most incompetent, disorganized, ignorant, etc., place on the planet.

2) The government has announced a mandatory no-travel order starting (I think) on Sept. 18. The plan is that nobody moves while teams of (untrained) people visit every dwelling in the entire country. What they plan to actually do is a mystery. As a result, the towns are emptying as people head off into the bush. They will go back to their remote villages where they know that the government can only get they on foot and can't do anything once they get there. Yeah, that's a real plan...

3) The rumors that are floating around in Sierra Leone are amazing. One rumor was that bathing in salt water would prevent Ebola. The result? A run on salt. You couldn't find salt available anywhere at anything like a reasonable price. Another was that since they had people rinsing their hands in bleach, then what the people need to do is drink bleach. So they did. Not really bright. The Kissi tribe has a long history of being at odds with the government, so they are convinced that Ebola isn't real, and that it's just a scheme to keep them from voting in the upcoming elections. Lots more, but that's all I can think of at the moment.

4) Enforcement runs the full spectrum. A few days ago, a man riding on a truck with a bunch of folks got to a screening station. A woman in the truck had a child with a slight fever (almost all kids there have a constant fever due to the poor hygiene there) and she was almost shaking with fear that they would take the child. The inspector got so annoyed with her that he told her to just leave. Get out of here. Go. He just didn't want to bother with her. Probably not Ebola, but who knows? On the other hand, there will be some who pull out anyone with a fever and send them off to an Ebola quarantine area (if they didn't have Ebola before then, they soon will).

5) The neighboring Medical Officer (similar to a Physician Assistant here) and his wife have both died of Ebola. The local Medical Officer learned that he had been treating patients even after he learned that he had Ebola. More probable infections. The local Medical Officer told our remaining missionary that their town could not handle even one case. If/when it shows up in their town, he will be leaving. He can't do anything about it, so he's not going to die trying.

I'll try to think of more points that I've learned, but that will do for now. Again, we're doing fine and are quite confident that nobody in our house has the virus. In fact, the best thing about it is that we're being spared some kind of stomach bug that has been going around here - nice to know that we won't be exposed to that. We're just waiting for the 21 days to end so we can get back to a normal life.
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: Bumbury September 12, 2014, 10:34:31 PM
steven thanks for the update.. thank god everybody got out.. looking forward to your next update.. the rumors are also rampid here in the US mostly about the issue of showing up here... seem its made it to now 6 countries in africa so the boarders arnt holding the virus very well....
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: Stephen September 12, 2014, 11:12:10 PM
No, Bumbury, you're right - the containment efforts aren't working very well. I wish that our last missionary could have returned home, but he decided to stay. Long story, but I understand why. That is one brave, dedicated man. He is very well known in that area, and people there are amazed to see him. They are in awe that he voluntarily stayed, and he is probably the last remaining White man for many miles around.

Right now, what we're doing is scouring the news reports and distilling them down to the basic points that would affect them over there. The reports are then sent to Sierra Leone to keep them posted. News and information just isn't getting through, both by intent and incompetence. We've all got a pretty good idea of what a disaster Africa is, but I can assure you - whatever you think about Africa, it's worse. Much worse. The willful ignorance and stupidity are staggering. Liberals here think they can make Africa better by just throwing money at it. The fact is that doing so just makes it a lot worse. OK, time to get off my soapbox. As bad as it is there, the Africans are still people for whom Jesus died for, we are still commanded to preach the gospel to all the world, and they are souls that need to be saved. That's why we have missionaries there risking their lives for those lost souls. I'd better end it here or this thread will get derailed. Let's keep it on track and focused on the Ebola issue.
: Re: Ebola Field Report from folks who are there
: Bumbury September 13, 2014, 09:24:25 AM
  
  the Africans are still people for whom Jesus died for, we are still commanded to preach the gospel to all the world, and they are souls that need to be saved. That's why we have missionaries there risking their lives for those lost souls. 

Steven Amen to that and god bless your work... thanks for everything you guys are doing over there.... we'll keep your last man standing in our prayers....
: Re: Ebola Field Report from folks who are there
: Stephen September 13, 2014, 11:20:14 AM
Following is the notice sent by the U.S. Embassy in Sierra Leone.  The link that was included on the original email takes you to the embassy web site that has only a few articles about the Ebola situation, and they are a year old. The description of the 3-day house-to-house project just sounds so nice and cozy, just makes you feel all warm and fuzzy, doesn't it? That's par for the course regarding how governments are dealing with this.


U.S. Embassy Freetown, Sierra Leone
Security Message for U.S. Citizens: Nationwide Ebola Virus Disease Information Campaign

September 11, 2014

 


This is an update to the Ebola Virus Disease (EVD) Security Message released on July 15, 2014.  According to the Government of Sierra Leone’s Ministry of Health and Sanitation, as of September 9, there are 1,341 confirmed cases of EVD in Sierra Leone, with 436 fatalities.  There are 284 survivors.  The confirmed cases are in Kailahun, Kenema, Kono, Kambia, Bombali, Tonkolili, Port Loko, Pujehun, Bo, Moyamba, and Bonthe districts and the Western Area Urban and Rural.


The Government of Sierra Leone has announced plans to conduct a three-day door-to-door nationwide public awareness campaign from Friday September 19 to Sunday September 21.  The goal of this “House to House Ebola Talk” is to educate people about EVD and identify cases.  As such, all individuals in Sierra Lone are being asked to remain in their residence during this three day period so they may be reached by the volunteer teams.  Similar house-to-house dialogues have been held in Sierra Leone regarding immunization, bed nets, and birth registration.  This is not a nation-wide quarantine or lockdown.  U.S. citizens are encouraged to prepare for three days without access to local businesses and government services, and to follow local news for additional information about the campaign.  In cooperation with local authorities, the U.S. Embassy will be closed on Friday September 19 and will re-open Monday, September 22 as regularly scheduled.  The U.S. Embassy in Freetown remains fully operational.


Contracting EVD can be avoided through practicing good preventative measures.  The virus is easily killed by contact with soap, bleach, sunlight, or drying.  You will not contract EVD if you avoid contact with the body fluids of someone who is ill with EVD or the corpse of someone who has died of EVD.  Also avoid bat and primate (bush) meat as it can transmit EVD to humans.


For more information:

•        Review the Travel Warning for Sierra Leone issued on August 14, 2014.
•        Review the Travel Alert regarding potential implications for travel because of Ebola in West Africa issued on September 3, 2014.
•        Continue to visit the U.S. Embassy Freetown website and Facebook page for regular updates.
•        Visit the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention website and review the CDC Level 3 Travel Warning for Sierra Leone.


We strongly recommend that U.S. citizens traveling to or residing in Sierra Leone enroll in the Department of State’s Smart Traveler Enrollment Program (STEP). STEP enrollment gives you the latest security updates, and makes it easier for the U.S. embassy to contact you in an emergency.  If you don’t have Internet access, enroll directly with nearest U.S. embassy.


Contact the U.S. embassy for up-to-date information on travel restrictions by visiting the U.S. Embassy Freetown website.  You can also get global updates at the U.S. Department of State's Bureau of Consular Affairs website where you can find the current Worldwide Caution, Travel Warnings, Travel Alerts, and Country Specific Information. If you don't have internet access, you can get current information on safety and security by calling 1-888-407-4747 toll-free in the United States, or for callers from other countries, a regular toll line at 1-202-501-4444.  These numbers are available from 8:00 a.m. to 8:00 p.m. Eastern Time, Monday through Friday (except U.S. federal holidays).  Also follow us on Twitter and Facebook.


The U.S. Embassy in Freetown is located at Leicester Square, Regent.  If you have questions or concerns about safety or related issues, contact the consular section at the Embassy by sending an email to consularfreetown@state.gov or calling 232(76) 515-000 or 076-515-000.  For after- hours emergencies, please call Tel: 232-(76) 515-000 or 076-515-000.
: Re: Ebola Field Report from folks who are there
: Mike220 September 30, 2014, 08:07:37 PM
And it is here!!! 1st case reported in Dallas.  :(
: Re: Ebola Field Report from folks who are there
: Stephen September 30, 2014, 08:48:53 PM
Keep in mind that unless there is a major mutation in the Ebola virus that results in a much more contagious while still as deadly strain, this will likely go nowhere here in the U.S. With that said, the big issue is panic by the herd. The media is going to whip this up into a frenzy and the politicians are going to hop on the bandwagon to convince the masses that it is only the power of the state (and the politicians, of course) that stands between them and "The Killer Virus". (And frankly, some of the prep blogs have been pretty irresponsible on this.) THAT, my friends, is what we really need to worry about and be alert for. Ebola is what it is because of what Africans are and how they live. America is not Africa. Even places like Detroit, third world as they are, do not have the same mentality as Africa does. It's hard to describe to Americans - we just can't imagine people being and living like that - but they do.

Let me say it again - Unless there is a major mutation in the Ebola virus that results in a much more contagious while still as deadly strain, this will likely go nowhere here in the U.S.
: Re: Ebola Field Report from folks who are there
: Papaswamp October 01, 2014, 08:41:37 AM
Seems as if the Texas case was sent home from the emergency room then admitted 2 days later.
The man is being kept in isolation in an intensive care unit. He had no symptoms when he left Liberia and began to show signs of the disease on Sept. 24, the CDC said. He sought care on Sept. 26, was hospitalized two days later at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital and is critically ill, said CDC Director Thomas Frieden. The agency is working to identify anybody who had contact with the man and track them down, he said.
http://bloom.bg/1poVMw3 (http://bloom.bg/1poVMw3)

Thats at least 4 days of exposing others before being quarantined. Not a positive revelation.
: Re: Ebola Field Report from folks who are there
: Mike220 October 03, 2014, 11:11:56 AM
  
Let me say it again - Unless there is a major mutation in the Ebola virus that results in a much more contagious while still as deadly strain, this will likely go nowhere here in the U.S.

While I hope your right, it seems we have the loony tunes squad of the CDC running the show. Possible contact people went from 20 to 100 overnight, the ambulance that transported the patient was kept in service for 3 days before being quarantined, the apartment maintenance guys where the guy lived was found to be cleaning up the vomit outside without protective gear and washing it all down the local sewage drain and the list goes on.

Some doctors are saying this strain has already possibly gone airborne.

I swear the CDC wants this to spread.
: Re: Ebola Field Report from folks who are there
: Stephen October 03, 2014, 12:03:00 PM
I would not dismiss the possibility that may be spreading more easily than CDC claims. My guess (and I don't know - this is just an assumption on my part) that there are some degrees of "airborne" spread. The folks I talked to were thinking that it may be more easily spread than the official story claims, and that is certainly a possibility.

Here is why I contend that, in its present form, it will not sweep through America like it is doing in Africa:

1) The absolute ignorance. No, make that stupidity since ignorance can be fixed by informing someone. Stupidity of the people there. They are intent on believing in their primitive culture and superstition rather than considering the possibility that Ebola just might require some changes.

2) Even in the Black-run, third-world cities like Detroit, people generally use toilets to dispose of human waste (not always, but usually). People at least understand that there is a link between disease and sanitation. People understand the need (even if they don't do it) of washing their hands with soap and water after using the bathroom and before eating.

3) Life here is held in somewhat higher regard than it is there. In Africa, life is cheap, people are unspeakably cruel, and pain and death are a part of every day life.

4) Obama has not yet completely destroyed the American health care system, although he has damaged it almost beyond repair. It is still the best in the world. We have the depth, but we do not have the breadth. We have a capability of keeping a lid on it, but if it gets out of hand, we do NOT have the ability to contain and control and treat massive numbers of people. We have the quality, but the quantity is only enough for normal times with a moderate buffer for emergencies.

That's my thoughts anyway. Nobody really knows. We're all just making educated guesses based on what we've been told.

Bottom line (in my opinion) - as always, be prepared, remain vigilant, stay calm, and don't believe what the government is telling you until you've proven it for yourself.
: Re: Ebola Field Report from folks who are there
: KODIAK October 03, 2014, 06:06:51 PM
Good points. I hope you are right. I think this IS going to  be a bigger problem than advertised.
So, Your saying you should use toilets AND wash your hands after????? uuuj
: Re: Ebola Field Report from folks who are there
: myakka October 03, 2014, 06:14:05 PM
  
Good points. I hope you are right. I think this IS going to  be a bigger problem than advertised.
So, Your saying you should use toilets AND wash your hands after????? uuuj

No, he is saying you should just hold it in till this whole thing blows over!  :o
: Re: Ebola Field Report from folks who are there
: Bumbury October 03, 2014, 07:26:06 PM
  
  
Good points. I hope you are right. I think this IS going to  be a bigger problem than advertised.
So, Your saying you should use toilets AND wash your hands after????? uuuj

No, he is saying you should just hold it in till this whole thing blows over!  :o

I hope the wind will be coming from the East when he lets go... :o
: Re: Ebola Field Report from folks who are there
: myakka October 03, 2014, 07:32:52 PM
As long as it isn't from the North, I am pretty okay with it.................
: Re: Ebola Field Report from folks who are there
: KODIAK October 03, 2014, 08:53:53 PM
Too late. Did you see the sky turn a little grayer a little while ago????
: Re: Ebola Field Report from folks who are there
: Bumbury October 03, 2014, 10:30:13 PM
  
  
Let me say it again - Unless there is a major mutation in the Ebola virus that results in a much more contagious while still as deadly strain, this will likely go nowhere here in the U.S.

While I hope your right, it seems we have the loony tunes squad of the CDC running the show. Possible contact people went from 20 to 100 overnight, the ambulance that transported the patient was kept in service for 3 days before being quarantined, the apartment maintenance guys where the guy lived was found to be cleaning up the vomit outside without protective gear and washing it all down the local sewage drain and the list goes on.

Some doctors are saying this strain has already possibly gone airborne.

I swear the CDC wants this to spread.

Altho i do agree with you the way the CDC and the fedcoats are handling the EV situation it does seem its intentionally done.. but i have to think that the IDOTS running the show are really just so incompetent that it Run's it like a 3 ring circus....  than again your read something like this than you really start to wonder...

BARACK EBOLA: In 2010 Obama Admin Scrapped CDC Quarantine Regulations Aimed At Ebola

 http://clashdaily.com/2014/10/barack-ebola-2010-obama-admin-scrapped-cdc-quarantine-regulations-aimed-ebola/
: Re: Ebola Field Report from folks who are there
: -> Bear October 03, 2014, 10:56:59 PM
Stephen if you don't mind please PM me your mans first name for a prayer list. So much going on with the ev and the idiots in, charge. I think you for the updates, may we all stay safe an in good faith and health.
: Re: Ebola Field Report from folks who are there
: Stephen October 04, 2014, 04:13:25 PM
  
Stephen if you don't mind please PM me your mans first name for a prayer list. So much going on with the ev and the idiots in, charge. I think you for the updates, may we all stay safe an in good faith and health.
Thanks, ~D. No need to PM it - his first name is the same as mine - Stephen. Last name begins with "H", so we can refer to him as "Stephen H." Just to head off any confusion, we are definitely two different people. To make it even more confusing/coincidental though - our wives both have the same first names, the two Stephens and the two wives are the same age, and our wedding anniversaries are within a couple weeks of each other. With all those matches, how could we NOT have them as best friends and support their mission work! He is retired military and using his military retirement to fund this project (with a good bit of help from churches and individual supporters).

He is doing well, and still sending reports our way while we send media reports his way. Thank you for your prayers!

: Re: Ebola Field Report from folks who are there
: -> Bear October 04, 2014, 09:40:50 PM
... thx Stephen.....
   
: Re: Ebola Field Report from folks who are there
: Papaswamp October 05, 2014, 08:34:55 AM
Just a side note... Several articles showing a run on protective gear, especially tyvek suits. Tyvek is NOT biohazard protection rated. It is intended to protect against dry hazards and wet non- hazardous splashes. TyCHEM on the hand is rated for and specifically protects against biohazards ( and chem warfare agents). Tyvek will do you no good in the ebola arena.
: Re: Ebola Field Report from folks who are there
: Bumbury October 05, 2014, 09:01:49 AM
  
Just a side note... Several articles showing a run on protective gear, especially tyvek suits. Tyvek is NOT biohazard protection rated. It is intended to protect against dry hazards and wet non- hazardous splashes. TyCHEM on the hand is rated for and specifically protects against biohazards ( and chem warfare agents). Tyvek will do you no good in the ebola arena.

Hey papaswamp i read that the tyvek suits primary uses against the EV would to be for localized splash protection (non health care professional) for disposable purposes but not usefull if caring for EV paitents...
: Re: Ebola Field Report from folks who are there
: Papaswamp October 06, 2014, 02:55:32 PM
  
  
Just a side note... Several articles showing a run on protective gear, especially tyvek suits. Tyvek is NOT biohazard protection rated. It is intended to protect against dry hazards and wet non- hazardous splashes. TyCHEM on the hand is rated for and specifically protects against biohazards ( and chem warfare agents). Tyvek will do you no good in the ebola arena.

Hey papaswamp i read that the tyvek suits primary uses against the EV would to be for localized splash protection (non health care professional) for disposable purposes but not usefull if caring for EV paitents...

Since the manufacturer does NOT rate it for biohazards I wouldnt use it. DuPont specifically states Tychem for biohazards not tyvek. If the company doesnt rate it for bio, Im not going to trust it.
: Re: Ebola Field Report from folks who are there
: Papaswamp October 06, 2014, 03:01:01 PM
Ebola is no longer just on the African continent. A nurse in Spain that was treating a priest brought back from Africa with Ebola has herself contracted the disease. Tested twice, both positive. She is te first case contracted outside of Africa. The person she was treating died 25 September. So about a 10-12 day lag time. The fact that this was a healthcare worker in a modern hospital with all precautions in place is a bit worrisome.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-29514920 (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-29514920)
: Re: Ebola Field Report from folks who are there
: Bumbury October 06, 2014, 10:38:50 PM
  
Ebola is no longer just on the African continent. A nurse in Spain that was treating a priest brought back from Africa with Ebola has herself contracted the disease. Tested twice, both positive. She is te first case contracted outside of Africa. The person she was treating died 25 September. So about a 10-12 day lag time. The fact that this was a healthcare worker in a modern hospital with all precautions in place is a bit worrisome.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-29514920 (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-29514920)

well thats never a good thing... it's going to be interesting to see how our technology protects our health care workers or their really might be something to all the speculation and hehawing around that the virus might be getting/gotten airborne...
: Re: Ebola Field Report from folks who are there
: siege571 October 07, 2014, 02:00:03 AM
Great to hear the update, Stephen. That's pretty interesting that you're doing a quarantine at your house  :)
: Re: Ebola Field Report from folks who are there
: Papaswamp October 07, 2014, 07:15:45 AM
  

well thats never a good thing... it's going to be interesting to see how our technology protects our health care workers or their really might be something to all the speculation and hehawing around that the virus might be getting/gotten airborne...

I seriously doubt its airborne just due to the design of the virus. I do believe it can be aerosolized and is more successful on surfaces ( fomites) than given credit for. That said, this is nature, and the longer the virus gets to adapt in human hosts the more successful it will become...thus anything is possible. Longer this thing gets to hang out in humans the more it will adapt. The only plus is it incapacitates the host quickly. If it ever mutates to allow for longer exposure time, then we are in serious trouble.

Edit: in light of additional news from Spain where it is now rumored several,other workers are infected, indeed something has either changed and/or failed. It is possible the 'Spanish strain' is something more modified. Only time will tell if this thing has become more virulent.
: Re: Ebola Field Report from folks who are there
: Bumbury October 07, 2014, 03:21:45 PM


http://www.dcclothesline.com/2014/10/07/4-new-cases-spain-says-ebola-spread-europe-unavoidable/
: Re: Ebola Field Report from folks who are there
: Papaswamp October 08, 2014, 08:39:07 AM
  
http://www.dcclothesline.com/2014/10/07/4-new-cases-spain-says-ebola-spread-europe-unavoidable/

It will be interesting to see what happens. Typically to get to the US, people must first go through Europe. Europe also, since making immigration easier, has set themselves up for a possible larger problem. It will be interesting to see how things go.

Those exposed to the Dallas index patient should be showing signs by now if they have contracted the virus. Since we are hearing nothing, we may have dodged a bullet. Though the people in the apartment have been moved to 'another location'. I worry that govts will sit on some cases in an attempt to quell panic only for us to find out later there are far more cases than previously thought...we are less than a month out from elections.
: Re: Ebola Field Report from folks who are there
: Bumbury October 08, 2014, 09:21:49 AM
  
  
http://www.dcclothesline.com/2014/10/07/4-new-cases-spain-says-ebola-spread-europe-unavoidable/

It will be interesting to see what happens. Typically to get to the US, people must first go through Europe. Europe also, since making immigration easier, has set themselves up for a possible larger problem. It will be interesting to see how things go.

Those exposed to the Dallas index patient should be showing signs by now if they have contracted the virus. Since we are hearing nothing, we may have dodged a bullet. Though the people in the apartment have been moved to 'another location'. I worry that govts will sit on some cases in an attempt to quell panic only for us to find out later there are far more cases than previously thought...we are less than a month out from elections.

unfortunatly i fear you are correct... politics over TRUE concern of the population...
: Re: Ebola Field Report from folks who are there
: Tropheus October 08, 2014, 03:47:36 PM
New Dallas cases, go figure.
My unit just sent out a preparedness warning. Advised the usual washing of hands regularly and so forth, keep an eye out for flu like symptoms(after they are giving us flu shots, go figure). Info that I have not seen on any news report was given as well. Such as an infected person sneezing and touching a door knob, it remains active on said door knob for up to several hours. If one sick person sneezes on a plane and uses the bathroom and is less than sterile, guess what? Our border remains the worst possible conduit for us. If this disease gets spread somehow to South America, guess where they are going to come to get away or get treatment? Guess where DHS has their hands tied and are not allowed to stop people crossing?
: Re: Ebola Field Report from folks who are there
: Mike220 October 08, 2014, 04:47:58 PM
The new Dallas case sounds like it was a Deputy who went into the dead guys apartment.....with no protective gear.

http://www.libertynews.com/2014/10/breaking-patient-in-texas-exhibiting-signs-of-ebola-claims-to-have-had-contact-with-now-deceased-thomas-duncan/

Like I stated in a prior post, it sounds like they want to spread. 1st reported case in GA, AL or in here in FL and we are headed north to the middle of nowhere.
: Re: Ebola Field Report from folks who are there
: Papaswamp October 08, 2014, 06:47:49 PM
  
The new Dallas case sounds like it was a Deputy who went into the dead guys apartment.....with no protective gear.

http://www.libertynews.com/2014/10/breaking-patient-in-texas-exhibiting-signs-of-ebola-claims-to-have-had-contact-with-now-deceased-thomas-duncan/

Like I stated in a prior post, it sounds like they want to spread. 1st reported case in GA, AL or in here in FL and we are headed north to the middle of nowhere.

I dont want to agree with you... But it seems like they do doesn't it. Possible cases in LA and NYC also reported late this afternoon.

Even MSM reporters think we are screwed.
http://truthstreammedia.com/were-screwed-msm-caught-on-hot-mic-at-white-house-ebola-press-briefing/ (http://truthstreammedia.com/were-screwed-msm-caught-on-hot-mic-at-white-house-ebola-press-briefing/)
: Re: Ebola Field Report from folks who are there
: -> Bear October 08, 2014, 11:32:19 PM
More an more worrying, Ebola and  that "etrovirus".. bird flues, also the stuff becoming antibiotic resistant. Things have gotten scary kinda quickly in the last about 1 year.
: Re: Ebola Field Report from folks who are there
: Armydillo978 October 09, 2014, 07:54:19 AM
The CDC has assured us that this will be contained.....trust your government.

When I heard the CDC head say that, my first thought was  "Contained?"  So that means there is a chance it could get loose.....contained.   At least we know there is a vaccine out there....oh wait, no...there isn't.   And the doctor who was given the vaccine died yesterday; but not from ebola, form other complications.   Yeahhhh, right.

Stay calm and trust your government.
: Re: Ebola Field Report from folks who are there
: Bumbury October 09, 2014, 12:43:25 PM
everybody keeps changeing their stories or new information comes in and they are adjusting their information cant really figure it out... all i know is that the more THEY keep telling me its going to be OK the more im just not trusting them... AT ALL... "like i did any beofre"......

theirs a boat load of information from a bunch of expercerts wondering how the virus is spreading outside the models projected.... i do think things will be getting interesting from here on out....

http://www.dcclothesline.com/2014/10/09/whoawhats-eight-confirmed-ebola-cases-europe/

: Re: Ebola Field Report from folks who are there
: Papaswamp October 12, 2014, 07:37:22 AM
Originally it seemed as if US has indeed dodged a bullet...this morning not so much.
http://ow.ly/2OWF3d (http://ow.ly/2OWF3d)

A healthcare worker in Dallas has tested positive. The worker apparently did help treat the index case. This is the second healthcare worker in a modern hospital with modern equipment and protocols in place. Either the protocol is missing a step or there is a step that is easily screwed up. Its beginning to sound like late stage virus shedding is so extreme that it is everywhere. This was a concern raised in an article put out by CIDRAP which recommended respirators instead of masks in heavy contaminated areas.
http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2014/09/commentary-health-workers-need-optimal-respiratory-protection-ebola (http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2014/09/commentary-health-workers-need-optimal-respiratory-protection-ebola)
: Re: Ebola Field Report from folks who are there
: Bumbury October 12, 2014, 08:42:14 AM
MEANWHILE here in our country our ilustrious gobernment blames the rest of the world for not doing enough to contain the virus as we do the same...

Administration points fingers on Ebola

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/220498-obama-administration-points-fingers-on-ebola

the more this goes on the more the tin hat guys really might just a point.......

just remember like the CDC said this morning on CNN everything is OK, dont worry, we are doing everything to protect you and keep you safe....
: Re: Ebola Field Report from folks who are there
: -> Bear October 12, 2014, 01:38:05 PM
If we had a UsA government like our country had in its founding. Our leadership wouldn't do what this administration is "done"...
    We need as a county to begin to realise, the dangers and prevention of Ebola. Many are unknowedged an "panicked"
: Re: Ebola Field Report from folks who are there
: Stephen October 18, 2014, 12:37:03 PM
More bad news on the Ebola front. This is from an email I received this morning that followed up a phone call we received earlier. For those who may have missed it in previous posts, the "Stephen" referred to here is NOT me - it is the missionary who is still in Sierra Leone. My role in this is as vice-president of the non-profit corp. that provides financial and logistical support for the project. We both just happened to be named "Stephen." The email was written by Stephen's wife, who is now back home in America (and has gone through the quarantine as described in previous posts in this thread).

This serves as a good illustration of why Ebola is NOT going to be controlled in Africa any time soon. I had hoped that once it reached America, it would die out quickly since we aren't as stupid and inept and corrupt and backwards as they are in Africa. Now I'm not so sure of that.

================


Early this morning I received a phone call from Stephen with the news we've been praying we wouldn't hear: Ebola has reached our home village, Baomahun. Thursday a man who was working with a logging crew in a more distant village accessible only by foot fell seriously ill and was not allowed to remain in the room shared by the crew; he walked back to Baomahun, his boss having told him to go immediately to the bush clinic in our village. Unfortunately upon his arrival in town, he went to his own room endangering others renting in the same building. Yesterday his landlord required him to go to the clinic. Our medical officer was out of town so he was attended to by Sunny, the only nurse who was on duty at the time. Philip, the medical officer has been pleading with the government for months to supply even minimal protective equipment but his pleas have gone unheeded. Sunny attended to this man with nothing more than latex gloves which get used over and over. An Ebola evacuation ambulance arrived (time frame is unclear) and the driver was in street clothes; no protective equipment was used. The man was then taken to a treatment center in Kenema, a rough 4 hour drive. A decontamination crew came and sprayed chorine water in the man's room and around the outside of the building; they also decontaminated the clinic. This little clinic is horribly under-funded, they do what they can, the workers are dedicated but even on a good day it needs decontaminating. Again the time frame is unclear; the contaminants could have been present for quite some time before getting sprayed. Stephen told me that today the clinic is back in use. They service a broad area around us as the villages deep in the bush have no medical facilities at all. There's typically one or two babies born there every day. The potential for spread is far reaching. As Stephen was talking to me he said he could see the house where the man had stayed. The panic from yesterday had died down and seemed all but forgotten as people were in and out of the house as well as sitting on the veranda. He told me that there was relative calm today for which he was grateful but he's concerned that people will lapse back into "business as usual." That is their tendency.

Now for the personal side of this event. First, Stephen has severely restricted the movement and activities of our boys. They had been traveling around to these remote villages selling provisions to earn some extra money. They had also been organizing soccer games with the kids from Sunday school. Both of these activities are put on hold until further notice. I'm suspecting that the town chief will now enforce the restrictions on group gatherings which would include church, mosque, and most likely the Bible institute will have to suspend classes. It's unclear at this time how these things will be affected. Second, Stephen will be going to Bo for supplies on Monday. His concern is that the village will go into lockdown and supplies will become scarce and prices will be inflated. He's going to stock up on some basics that he can make available to church members as necessary. He'll also add to his own store of supplies including fuel for the generator.

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Last week an Ebola ambulance transferring an unspecified number of patients from the newly quarantined large town of Makeni to a treatment center in Kenema overturned on the severely rutted road about 10 miles out from us. This accident happened in Gumahun, a village where Stephen holds extension classes. The driver was in full protective gear yet refused to assist the Ebola patients who were all trapped in the vehicle. He and the gathering crowd of villagers stood by and watched but were unwilling/unable to help the victims in the vehicle. Several hours later another vehicle showed up and the patients were removed directly to the new ambulance and continued on their journey to Kenema. On a good day traveling from Makeni to Kenema would take six hours.

The man mentioned above who went to his home rather than the clinic, the carelessness of the ambulance driver going too fast on poor roads, people too quickly thinking the danger has passed just because the infected person has been removed and some bleach has been sprayed, these are the things that underscore why it's going to be so difficult to contain this outbreak. People still insist on traditional burials, properly equipped burial teams are run out of villages, health workers face angry mobs and all the while the virus continues to flare up in new places. Koinadugu district had been the country's one remaining unaffected district until Wednesday when they reported their first two cases. Another struggle in containing the virus is that many people still deny Ebloa even exists. Stephen recently spoke to a former student who now lives in Bo. This man has lost both his son and a son-in-law to the virus. They were ambulance drivers who became infected. "I don't believe Ebola is real; it's not as bad as they say. We've always had disease in Africa and this is no different." Conspiracy theories too numerous to list, witch doctor treatments, rumors of miracle cures or preventions - they all add to the mess.
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: -> Bear October 18, 2014, 10:09:12 PM
I have added your friend to my churches prayer list. I never been to Africa, but I don't think I would want to. I can only beg the lord Jesus this is contained very soon. But his ways we may never understand. The 21 day incubation period I heard might be longer in some, an causes many other issues.
  In your opinion if someone gets ebola an has .... Aids, or the flu, maybe some stomach bug. How would this effect the virus Ebola?  Could it help change or create a "new" strains?
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: Stephen October 18, 2014, 10:27:35 PM
I'm afraid that I have nothing to base that on other than what I've read, so this is nothing more than my opinion: I doubt that it would have any effect on it. This is a virus that replicates by asexual reproduction - one cell simply splits into two cells. There is no interaction (cross breeding) with any other virus or other cell that I've ever heard of. The only thing I could think of where it might affect things is if something were in the body - either from another disease or something being used to treat that disease - that increased the mutation rate and where the mutations might have a better survival rate than unmutated cells, then that COULD affect things. My guess is that it would be only a theoretical difference though. In other words - "No, that would have no effect on the Ebola virus".

That makes for nice movie and sci-fi book plots, but it doesn't stand up to reason from what I understand. That kind of crossing might be possible in a lab - similar to gene splicing - but I am not aware of that being successfully done on a virus.
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: Bumbury October 18, 2014, 10:46:33 PM
stephen thanks for the update... sorry to hear about your friends predicment... hopefully the good lord will bring them thru this intact... as i pray the same for us all..
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: Stephen October 19, 2014, 08:49:46 AM
Just got word this morning that it might not be Ebola. Awaiting further tests there, but hopefully the guy in their village just has malaria or something else. Thanks for prayer - it works!
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: Stephen October 20, 2014, 08:48:38 PM
Unfortunately, it was not malaria. Testing confirmed that it IS Ebola. Situation does not look good, but it could be worse.
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: Bumbury October 20, 2014, 10:25:06 PM
in our prayers stephen.. keep us abreast of the situation.....
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: Stephen October 21, 2014, 08:07:24 PM
Diagnosis confirmed - he definitely had Ebola. I say "had" because now he's dead. Three houses now under quarantine, one adult son took off into the hills to avoid quarantine and hasn't been seen since, nurse who treated him left for the city - exact destination unknown, Medical Officer remains in the city so the clinic (the only medical facility in the area) is now unmanned, when they called the Ebola ambulance, it finally arrived the next day, people still believe that Ebola was started by the government to kill off the opposition (not smart enough to figure out that this thing is an equal opportunity killer). On and on it goes. Anyone who thinks this is going to be stopped in Africa or even slowed down is delusional. What happened here is what is just a small picture of what is happening everywhere in Africa that Ebola has planted its tentacles. Our missionary is still planning to stay - spiritual doors are opening that have never been opened before and he is certain that this is where God wants him right now. Things are always subject to change, but that's where we are right now.

By the way, I still hold to my belief that the threat of Ebola in America is rather small. I'm growing a bit more concerned, but I've read and observed enough to believe that while this deserves close attention and vigilance, and it is a good motivator for reviewing your preps, that's about the extent of it for most folks. I'm confident that there will be more cases here - perhaps many more cases - but short of some other major complication, fears of a pandemic of Ebola are completely unwarranted. I am far more worried about economic problem than I am Ebola problems.
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: Bumbury October 21, 2014, 10:54:24 PM
that was quick... i thought he wasn't tested but a week ago and than retested just a couple of days ago or am i confused... maybe so.. either way I'm sorry to hear about his passing... also we'll be praying for your last man standing...

i do agree with you about the EV stuff i do believe we have the potential to contain this BUT considering the Ebola is thinking about sending EV patients from Africa to the US for treatment its almost like he's trying to increase the contaignation.... so I'm pretty confident we can contain it but only time will tell to many variables still unknown... so shoring up the supplies an bio hazard stuff is the goal for now and keeping an eye on things.... Also as you say the economy is now a differant story just like the 08 crash the market was artificially up just like now.... this one is going to be bad...
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: Stephen October 21, 2014, 11:06:02 PM
Probably a couple of factors going on here: 1) He was well into the symptoms stage when he got to town, so no telling just how far along the disease was, and 2) there is always the issue of communications - and this is probably the biggest factor since we got conflicting on this one. The missionary is trying to stay away from exposure as much as possible, so he is now having to rely more heavily on reports from others. By the time those reports get filtered through cultural differences and language differences, the final report can get pretty twisted from the original.