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General Forum => General Discussion => : Capt Ret November 08, 2014, 10:24:09 AM
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I'm going to submit that the great unraveling has already started. The rules that govern our society have been discarded. Precious metals prices are in the tank, but the price of gas is falling like a rock (Saudi trade war?). Obama is sending troops back to Iraq, but pulling them from Afghanistan, and we both know how that's going to end. The stock market is ridiculously over blown, but milk is still over $4 a gallon. My heath care is three times as expensive as last year, for the same basic services and my family Doctor is going broke. Russia is in Crimea and ISIS is everywhere. Our cops are being militarized and our military is being turned into medical workers. Hamburger is $4.50 a pound and my 401K says exactly what it reported 10 years ago when I quit pumping cash into it. I have heard all the logical explanations for all this stuff and frankly I'm tired of hearing it. If you stand back and look at the whole scenario, it scares the snot out of me. Wal-Mart is selling Long-Term foods and I still can't afford whatever ammo I find. Protective suits are sold out and gas masks are a hot item. Even the Dollar Tree has sold out of shelf-stable milk. We've got known terrorists inside our borders, a disease straight out of Revelations percolating in West Africa and Sweden is loosing control of its cities. My most liberal coworker asked me how to apply for a carry permit. This guy is a tree hugging, free birth control, welcome the immigrants kind of dimwit. And he wants a gun????
Nothing makes sense anymore.
It seems like the foundation of our civilized society is crumbling. It's impossible to hold onto the "everything will be OK" message the talking heads are spouting, cause everything won't be OK. The spiral slide to the ground floor started a couple of years ago and it's accelerating.
A friend of mine calls this feeling the nesting instinct. Stocking up, inventory his meds, converting cash to real goods, everyday carry. Repacking the get home bag stored in my truck. I spent an entire day cleaning guns just cause it seemed to calm me down.
I don't believe we're going to wake up one day in a Mad Max world. But I think the slide started a few years ago and I failed to notice. Time to get busy. Maybe I'll pack another bucket today. Good luck guys, see ya on the other side.
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Capt, I see what you see. I do not know what can be done. Well, I do know, but, do not want to let myself think that a real war on American soil is possible. I do not expect to survive acivil war. My only hope is to give my children and grandchildren a chance to survive.
Too many questions. Will the military follow orders to fire on American citizens? Will the police departments do the same? Will citizens stand together? How far will the guberment go to put us in camps?
Tough times. I took an Oath many times to Support and Defend MY Country. It will be domestic enemies that it must be defended against.
I pray for our Country.
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Even the old standby "common courtesy " is gone.
Even at the best of times "civilized society" is a thin veneer. We are never more than 2 weeks away from being a third world country.
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MAN im so dam happy i opened this thread.... NOW im really not going to get any sleep... on top of not getting any sleep...
CAPT THANKS......... >:( >:( >:(
OK OK im back...... well capt i do have to agree with your rant things are really looking out of control or controled to look out of control... It is funny that i was getting ready to run a new thread on.. well, this very subject.... it seems to me on alot of other web site threads and in the news blogisphere people are seeing the very same thing... also the people i know that prep at work are going do you? see this too?
Capt my statement and articles listed below is i think relative to your subject so i dont wont you to think that im hijacking your thread... if thats the case please have an admin move it....
So i was talking to D yesterday via email and i told him MY biggest concern that i believe WE here are all going to have to deal with, even with all the crap that is gong on as so eloquently posted by capt the issue is still going to be civil unrest... because CIVIL UNREST is the default reaction for the/a population that has had enough... its going to affect our commute, safety, police forces, ability for other people to get to work us included, more importantly people who provide the necessary critical services... power, water and the hospitals... if the riots get bad all of this is going o be a reality not a possibility.... Kodiak also has a good point about the military and the population.. these are variables that will have a wait n see ..
here are two links that will give you an insite into what im talking about....:
Economist: Financial Collapse Will Cause Civil Unrest to Erupt in America by 2016
http://www.dcclothesline.com/2014/11/07/economist-financial-collapse-will-cause-civil-unrest-erupt-america-2016/
The Economy Of The Largest Superpower On The Planet Is Collapsing Right Now
http://www.dcclothesline.com/2014/11/06/economy-largest-superpower-planet-collapsing-right-now/
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I saw the gains in my savings gone and it was eating into my money I had contributed so I sold it out and paid the taxes in 2007. My investments since have been into items for survival, long term food and whatever we enjoy doing. Condo in Navarre for a week we look forward to once a year. A movie with over priced popcorn. Out to a lunch or dinner meal every now and then. I don't worry about what is going to happen or what it's looking like. Holder resigning oh well. Prospective AG out of New York, oh well. Ebola coming into the U.S. The cost of milk or hamburger. I can't control those kind of things so why sweat it. I'm not saying these are not things to be concerned about. These are all small things when it comes to good health and not being six foot under. Don't sweat the small Sh!+ you can't change, invest in your family's well being for the future by purchases that you can hold in your hand. Stock up while you still can. My oldest son sells stocks and bonds. He told me two years after I had sold mine, there was no way he could have predicted how much better off by selling when I did.
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Chris, your right on. Saving was the way to go, yrs ago. Put what extra you have in real goods, food tools, ammo. Things that are still going to be worth something, whatever happens.
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Russia flexing muscle, allied with China. We are stretched out thin and trillions in Debt. We help hold up NATO. If we are BROKE, an cant barrow, the world would not imo help us. An we would implode, and then be over run I would think. Capt Ret, where is that like button when you want it.
Glad we are "ranting" and letting it out.
Maybe now some can sleep... ( oops /not I yet)
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I really appreciate the comments and sugestions. You guys help more than you can know. Maybe I'm not alone and not completely crazy.
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I really appreciate the comments and sugestions. You guys help more than you can know. Maybe I'm not alone and not completely crazy.
Capt i have to agree we are all kinda in the same boat..... plus the people i know outside of the threads are feeling the same thing... its kinda like the pins n needles thing "just waiting and fearing/wondering its close"..... also alot of the different surivial boards that im on thats the general feeling too... its to me seems the ev thing got people motovated to expidite things or to shore them up so people are looking harder at he situation and wondering...
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You are definitely NOT alone or CRAZY.
The masses are the crazy ones. Believing the guberments and media.
The ones who are loyal to God, the Constitution and Our way of life are the sane ones. The ones who must protect our Country.
Many of us took an OATH, against ALL enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC. That oath was NOT for 2 yrs or 4 yrs. That oath was for as long as you live.
That's how I see it.
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Well Kodiak we took a oath but we also are not doing much imo. We still have Prez Berry, miss Battle axe Clintock threat, states that are fighting for our guns, we are being dragged into debt further. Loosing our gas stations to foreign born non speaking English folks. ... maybe God will come soon.
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Well Kodiak we took a oath but we also are not doing much imo. We still have Prez Berry, miss Battle axe Clintock threat, states that are fighting for our guns, we are being dragged into debt further. Loosing our gas stations to foreign born non speaking English folks. ... maybe God will come soon.
D i do agree sometimes our hands do feel tied mostly because we have to deal with the sheeple... BUT that being said.. the people who did take an oath still knows what it means and if the time comes most will stand up for the what they promised....
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I am counting on those who stood with me, and those who did not. I counting that they will see the distruction being brought to our Nation. I'm counting on each of us.
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I agree with the rest of you and have been worried for some time now. On the bright side I have my younger sister starting to prep and my son. My other sister has a son who has been prepping for about 7 years now and helping her figure out what she can do. So you do what you can and stay vigilant in a country that is spiraling downward imo.
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no one stood up. When "stay in place" martial Law was enforced...
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no one stood up. When "stay in place" martial Law was enforced...
Very good point.
Everybody is a killer until its actually time to pull the trigger.
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Most of us will not know for sure, until it happens.
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Most of us will not know for sure, until it happens.
+1
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I did nothing wrong it was stand your ground, castle doctrine. I was obeying the stay in place order. An the cops busted in. So i warned an shot back they had no right, an they shot when I yelled a warning...
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I will agree that things are unraveling so quickly all around the country. Something that sent a chill through me today was in Sunday Mass. Priest was explaining the Advent and the second coming of Jesus Christ. For some reason my senses just went to "General Quarters" and I have been in a strange alert mode all afternoon. In the last line of his sermon he said Something like "take pause, be alert, and BE READY." I can't explain it but it sure is a weird feeling.
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It is amazing where you see signs of the future. I think everyone has there own "Oh shit" moments.
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Sorry I had to drop off-line so abrupt last evening... illness in family I had to tend to. ANYWAY- I've heard about people who have those types of "Oh Shat" moments and while I'm not saying that I had any type of premonition or anything like that. I just thought it was strange that me of all people would have these strange feelings after a church sermon that stuck with me all day long....
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Hope your family member gets well soon.
What better place to get a sign than Church.
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My wife an I started our prep when Obama was elected the First time.Well first my wife set and cryed,it killed me to see her that way.I made her a promise that morning that I would never let harm come to her,She and I saw through his BS.Yet people all around some even friends where singing his praise,at that moment I knew we where all in trouble.Since that election and his re-election the stupid have gotten blinder and us realist just shake our heads in disbelief.I too don't like the thought of another Civil War here on American soil,but more an more I have come to realize that may be the only answer.We have lost our country and I too wonder will US Troops fire on US citizens,will our local police raid our homes? We don't know, if asked those men and women are asking them selves the same question.This country is a time bomb ready to explode.Everyone is thinking and no one is trying to fix the problem.I belong to a list of political groups.I make the calls,send the faxes and emails.But for over 6 years no one has really listened to We the People!Just glad that my wife and I aren't the only ones that see the True Agenda.I too took that Oath many years ago and stand ready and able.GOD Bless America and ALL who protect her.
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You are not alone, My Brother. Many of us took that OATH. We remember. No one wants a civil war. You don't always get what you want. We will Deal With It Together.
That's enough to get me on there bad boy list....... uuuj
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I think I will post my .02 cents here for my first "official" post....
I don't think we are quite there yet. There is still far too much apathy in society.. I have seen some of it in the posts here.
People are not moved by things that dont really affect them so until they start to feel some of the pain, they wont change. One of the main things that kicked off the Revolution was the stamp act. That affected everyone with a tax... You also could not create any finished products, they all had to be purchased from the crown. Those two things were a tyranny that EVERYONE felt. Right now most of us are mildly annoyed with the loss of some of our freedom.
I do think this administrations end game is martial law so no election is held in 2016 and I don't think either party will object to it.. Sure some like Lee, Cruz, Paul, Rubio may howl but I do believe the fix is in. We saw it as soon as we gave the Republicans a landslide and the first thing they did was capitulate to Obama and stab us in the back. That is a sign of things to come. We no longer have a representative government. We are dealing with an extremely radical government and Obama was born of the worst kind thanks to Alinsky.
I think the dead cat needs to bounce three times and these riots are the first bounce. We have two to go. These riots are an experiment. The people inciting them are testing the waters. They want to divide us and get us to "go at it" with one-another. The smart ones wont take the bait. It's hard to have a clear mind when you are caught up with anger.
A new thing I am worried about is Russia. Putin would rather go to war than be humiliated being the one who went down with the ship. Living so close to McDill worries me.
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My wife an I too thought we are alone and or crazy.Its sites and folks like you all that give us Hope.I to took the Oath many years ago and Stand Ready to do my part.GOD Bless you one and All.
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Hide is right. The vast majority wont get up and do anything as long as they can sit at home and watch the tv, and have something to eat. History shows that until people are very uncomfortable, and have very little to lose, they will do nothing. Lone wolves and small groups of "freedom fighters" will have no effect other than to forward the gov agenda of control.
My fear is that we will continue to sink into a world of more and more control, and less and less freedom. As long as the powers that be keep the majority of slaves happy, there will be no uprising. The end is here all right, just its a slow burn under our pot, and we wont even feel it until we are all boiling. Speaking for the majority of Americans that is. I know most here feel the water getting hot, but we cant turn down the heat.
Sometimes I think our only way out would be a major event that pushes us to do something.
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I'm on board with you. The question is, WHEN nad WHICH Event.
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I think we need to go deeper down the hole before we will be compelled to get out of it. You, you, you, and I "get it" we see it and many of us are feeling the discomfort but until this forum is blowing up with users, we are 10% of the 3%... Other 3%ers that are like minded but a little slower to the party have not arrived yet.
I look at it like this, everybody's brain is tuned into a different station, some hear the station clearly and others haven't made the effort yet to tune the knob to better discern the programming from the white noise.
My opinion on Kodiak's question is the next financial collapse will be the when the, as we like to say, SHTF. The only other event I could think of would be some catastrophic event caused by some rogue nation. Putin said he was going to fly bombers into the Gulf of Mexico, try to imagine that nutcase dropping a nuke on McDill. One of my MOS's in the Military was 54E, part of that job was calculating an explosions yield and then plotting its fallout course and making all the half life calculations. Nasty stuff. One hour south of ground zero is a bit too close for comfort. Anyway, my point is, I think there would be a lot of social unrest if Americans suffered another attack because people are so FED UP with Washington, they would really see the Emperor has no clothes and folks would start to demand a change. Those in power will not simply walk away from it... They would be more compelled to let the hunger games begin.
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There are a total of 1,455,375 active personnel in the US military. The United States has over 200,000 troops stationed in 144 countries. These 200,000 men and women will not likely be a factor in the coming conflict and will prove to be in grave danger in the coming conflict.
I constantly have former military write to my website and proclaim their allegiance to the Constitution and pledge to destroy all enemies both foreign and domestic. I do not doubt their resolve or courage, however, there are not 30 million combat ready veterans, with the technological means and military organizational skills who would be ready to fight as they frequently claim. There are only 1.8 million veterans who are under the age of 35, which would be the prime fighting age for any resistance force. This means that in the best case scenario, that any resistance that the occupation forces could muster would consist of about 2.5 million men who have combat training in both our active duty personnel and our veterans. The mere size of the army that the Chinese could muster, in addition to the DHS, and the Russians, would dwarf any force that the American people could place on the battlefield. And if the confrontation came following a power grid take down, the odds would be worse.
The only choice that this country would have to resist the coming occupation and genocidal purge would be to make the war a guerrilla war.
-> http://www.thesleuthjournal.com/can-americans-win-guerrilla-war-banker-occupation-forces/
I get worried every day !
My wife wanted to stop in this one town. An I am like a monkey after a banana in the back wanting to get far away. So she didn't stop. The people seemed worse imo than Orlando, Florida. Cars crazy everywhere, people darting across the road, it's dark , cold, an rainy. Unfamiliar area. Places were packed.
I didn't wanna come to a complete stop.
Things I see an hear on a daily basis is ringing alarm claxons in my brain. I am at a loss on how to gather a mass amount in the area fully to understand an be onboard. An to fully bring the wife completely to understand.
Sent from my Sprint phone.
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There are only 1.8 million veterans who are under the age of 35, which would be the prime fighting age for any resistance force. This means that in the best case scenario, that any resistance that the occupation forces could muster would consist of about 2.5 million men who have combat training in both our active duty personnel and our veterans.
There is a lot wrong with this persons statement. I don't see the effective fighting force consisting of only military veterans, quite the contrary. I think you will have one vet that would probably be in a band of 10 to 15 that would be giving them advice and "orders." this is actually the type of scenario we have in Iraq with the military "advisers." It's pretty effective.
I do A LOT of shooting and I am pleasantly surprised with the proficiency a lot of other shooters at the range have. There are a lot of guys and girls that can hit the mark. The odds of any country "invading" us is so remote that any attempt would end in complete failure. We are the most armed nation on earth. With 100 million gun owners, even if only 20% of them were proficient and had the grit, that still 400,000 militia members in every state.
But all that really has nothing to do with the discussion, I just wanted to comment on something I feel is a bit "out there."
I did read the article and I did find something that is true:
Another former General has told me that the American people do not have the stomach for guerrilla war and that majority of our people will lay down like sheep and be slaughtered.
It really saddens me to think there is going to be a lot of people that will die. I dont think it would be a matter of laying down to be slaughtered, their bodies will not be able to handle the stress and starvation.
Sometimes I might be at the mall, grocery store, whatever.. and I look at the people and lets face it, there are a lot of very frail, FAT, and really old people in Florida that would not make it past a week when the SHTF. What's the statistic? The average store only has 3 days worth of food on the shelves? That wont take long to sell/loot and then what are these people going to do?
Everyone here knows the answer to that and that's why we do what we do. But even still, it's not going to be pretty and there are going to be a lot of flies. It will be pretty apocalyptic in regards to streets being vacant, people hiding, sounds of random gun fire.... Thank God I will be in the country on my property. It's pretty difficult to see what war does to another country, I cant imagine seeing that in my own home town.
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Hey, How you callin' fat, old and frail......Well, I am fat and old.
I still hope, Americans, way back down in there souls, are Still Americans.
Back in our history, we had the balls to get up and fight. We had the will to get by on little. We had the desire to be our own master.
The problem is/was we let many come here that wanted a handout. They still do. They have continued to change our country into a handout state.
The handout must end.
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To bad there's no liked button!
Thanks hide, an Kodiak,
Since my work incident years back. I got added weight I have tried to lose but it keeps following me around an attacking me..
Im not "fatish" per say. But I may be "big". Im about 6'3".
Dont throw me in with the rest of the mall crowd. I may have a slight bum leg, but im not frail. Under ..... over what makes one young old or in between?
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Seems like many will be gathering again in large areas, that concerns me. Wouldn't want to be in NY NY, with the ball drop, or large crowds tonight...
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My comments were not intended to offend anyone and if I did, I do apologize. I am just making a general comment about people that you would look at and think- Yeah this person wont make it. Try it sometime, next time you are out with a bunch of people, look at them and ask yourself, will this person survive in that physical condition?
Think about this Kodiak... If you are not someone who is prepared and has some sort of a food stash, how could you help someone who was just as hungry as you are? ( I am not saying this to you directly, when I say "you" I mean people in the third party)
If a person is not prepared to take care of himself, how can he offer to help anyone else? If we are going to have the discussion we do need to be realistic about it because that realty is what drives US to be prepared. Americans will stick together and its in our DNA to help each other but you can't help anyone when you are the one who needs help.
When I talk to like minded folks one of the things I see is, they don't exercise a lot of thought in what everything outside their bubble will be like... The conversation is always.. Well I am going to do this and that, and have 6 months of toilet paper and this big gun and shoot pigs and eat mushrooms.... Yeah ok whatever but try to imagine what the rest of society will look like? Picture dead people, vacant streets, businesses all looted.... That is the psychological part that no one really considers or most have ever had to deal with. Only 1% of Americans will have ever served in the military and only 1/5th of them will have ever seen combat and combat shows you a society that has been completely turned up-side-down.
Surviving is not just about your stash and physical well-being. The mental part will be really hard to deal with as well. What are your plans for mental health when things get ugly? Try to imagine everything you have ever known does not exist anymore. No more going out to dinner, no more going to the store to buy whatever... No more good Cigars... and that bottle of rum you have... Its going to be the last you will ever drink.
Talk to a combat vet and ask them what its like. Some of you may have experienced it yourselves... A hard day in combat was usually ended with some MCI rations or MRE's, we always had food... but a lot of the local people around us either had zero or very little to eat. When there is no electricity, keeping any fresh food is near impossible. Walking along a road seeing dead people in the streets and seeing little kids malnourished really screws with your head. Even when you sleep you cant get away from it. My own father suffered from PTSD and just watching him deal with the demons was heart braking. It literally destroyed him 5 years after his last tour. I was lucky, I was able to to keep my empathy in check. Him.. Well he is not here anymore.
Whats in your bug out bag that will help keep your feet on the ground? At the very least you should have something that plays some music.
If you are big, fat, heavy, whatever.. The best thing you can do for yourself is take care of yourself. I was turning into a bit of a fat ass myself, gained 30 pounds since I left the military and when I looked in the mirror one day I thought to myself you are turning into one of those people you see and think wont make it. It scared the hell out of me. So, I did the easy stuff, I stopped eating wheat and other grains, started using truvia to sweeten my coffee, and just focused on eating meat and veg and the weight poured off.. Its amazing how unhealthy the food around us is.. God I was such a bread and pasta lover and now I look at it as being something to eat as a last resort before bugs. Surprisingly, I don't miss it.
Being fit in body actually helps your mind stay fit and that's something that is really important when the stress is unimaginable.
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Mr .. Hyde,
No personal offences taken on my part.
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I admit it, I too have perceived others. An also include a threat level, like if power goes out these closest would trample me in this mall. Even outside its dark many will exit. I try hoping to think opposite of them. Cover, concealment. Who would be tripping out. Who might think similarly an help in a short situation. WHO is maybe less prepared, stuck in electronics, an so forth. I try not to be too judgmental though, like talking an making some new friends. Dont like throwing everyone under a bus. Sometimes I think it takes time to see that a big, fat, frail ect guy is not at all trying. Sometimes there the calmer one that may shoot you first.
People are like a box of chocolates you Never know what you gonna get... ;)
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An. Who wishes to fight must first count the cost
-- quote from Sun Tzu
Sent from my Sprint phone.
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Sometimes I think it takes time to see that a big, fat, frail ect guy is not at all trying. Sometimes there the calmer one that may shoot you first.
My comments are more geared to the physical attributes of an individual rather than their personality traits. If you are generally unhealthy, you have a much much lower chance at survival when the SHTF. We are not going to go from happy at the mall shopping to instant hell before we can get out the door and drive home. Even if the grid were to go down, people would not start freaking out for many hours or at least a full day. Once the food in the fridge goes off and they realize there is no place open to eat or buy food... That's when it could get ugly.
So I am not too worried about getting shot by some quiet fat man at the mall if the lights go out. ;D But that quiet fat man will have a hard time fending for himself if he does not have any food stored and his mobility is limited.
There is a reason the military wants you fit, you just plain need to be. If quiet fat men were so effective, they would have forced us to eat and taught us to shuttup :)
You will increase your chances of survival exponentially by keeping yourself reasonably fit and healthy (Physically and mentally). No Excuses people, if you cant low crawl (and don't have a physical limitation that would keep you from being able to doing it), you need to think about your health and fitness level. If my family members rely on me for their survival, their survival is going to depend on my health. The least I can do for them is keep myself prepared and reasonably fit. I am not a spring chicken anymore, I am pushing 50 years old but I can keep up with a lot of guys 20 years younger than me. For me, basic survival begins with your own personal health. I don't think there are a lot of people that would realistically disagree with that.
So no mumbling and grumbling... If you're a little chunky :-\ and you could stand to loose a few pounds, now is the perfect time to start. Put the biscuit down.. Go buy yourself a big fat steak and grill some veg for the side. If it's made out of a grass seed, try not to eat it. This includes the main grains of wheat, rice, corn, oats, and barley. Don't even worry about exercise yet. Just cut out the grains and processed food and you will be AMAZED at how much weight you loose and how much better you will feel.
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No offense here.
And, I see those every day. More that will not make it, than ones I think will. I think the country will have a large die off. From some trauma or starvation. We will not be able to feed all the people who live here. And, we get more moving to this country every day. When the trucks, farms and factories stop. It will all change.
Your ideas about staying in shape are very valid. We have talked about this many times. I will be the first to tell you younger ones that you should keep that in your thoughts daily. Watch what you eat, get some exercise. I am talking from the perspective of an older guy. With age comes more medical issues. Being a bit "larger" makes all those issues worse. It will get to the point that you cannot get back in good shape. I know what I'm talking about.
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You ALL have made good relative points.I will use myself for this example:I am a male 56yrs young,6' 205 lbs DAV USN.Not bad so far,right.Well in the last 15yrs I have had well over a half dozen surgeries.lower back,cervical spine,ect.ect...There is no way in HELL I would try to do a frontal attack,belly crawl nor any other for that matter.What I will do is provide cover fire for the young bucks,set up several sentry spots for ground fire and work slow and methodical.I also understand what you all are saying about the Helpless ones,see them every day.Bag of burgers,super size fries and a Diet soda.The way I see it those will be the first to falter an die.No fault of mine.Other than the obese and mentally challenged,the rest have a place in the ranks.Not everyone has to be a soldier when the SHTF.Jobs will be never ending ie: cooks and bottle washers,laundry detail,garbage detail,base station radio personnel,ammo detail,medic,twenty for seven guard duty,ect...The list goes on an on.Your are right tho,the under 50 group needs to stay fit and firm.
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Exactly. I want America to survive, but, I can't be concerned with every idiot who thinks someone will save them or owes them something.
My ace in the hole is my family. Four grown kids with spouses. Each has there own set of skills. Four grandkids, 14 to 23. Short on life experiences, long on energy. None will lay down and give up.
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I should have had more kids....
It's a little late to start that now.
I'm pretty sure my role would be sniping. If you are within 1500 yards and the wind is in my favor... and I can see you, lights out.
I remember some sergeant telling me.. Private, if you can smell them when they rot, you let them get too close to ya. You know, there is a lot of truth in that. I dont want to be part of any "clean up" detail....
Reminds me of that movie that was out a couple months ago, John Wick. Did any of you guys see that? The main character shot up a bunch of guys that broke into his house to kill him... needless to say he killed them all, then he gets on the phone and calls up Service Master for bad guys and this crew rolls in, cleans up all the dead guys, mops the floors, straightens out the pictures, patches the holes in the walls and when they walked out you couldn't tell anything happened... As the Boss walks by, Wick gives him a stack of these gold coins for the service....
I'd rather just shoot them 2/3rds of a mile away and let the vulchers do their job. Much cheaper.
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Just listened to an idiot mayor preside over Fla's first gay wedding.
Be still my beating heart.
I remember firefights where both sides expended thousands of rounds and no one got hit.
Truth is few are killers - guys who can eat up a BE on the range couldn't hit an enemy three feet away.
Gang gunsels empty their weapons at each other on the street and only hit some toddler a block away.
In any unit you have two or three stones who get the job done, while the rest shoot over each other's head.
You can hold a pistol to their head and they still can't do the deed.
Worst thing you can do is psych yourself out or go blood simple. Unless you've been in combat you're still a parade ground soldier, and you don't know if you're a killer until after you've done it.
Odds are that the guy shooting at you couldn't hit you if he tried, so be chilly.
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Anthony, not everyone can practice on human targets. I have tried animals, an other targets. so will I be willing? Try shooting at me an see if when you miss you dont go to a morgue..
I see a threat, I will evaluate and I will likely act. Cant afford to see a threat level getting out of hand before action.if I can help it.
You mentioned the "pride" community. That is one unavoidable circumstance. We individually cant change IT, but if the people acted like those in Ferguson, mo. Over these "political motivated" actions. Then maybe we stand a chance to start Real CHANGE, Obama isn't giving us the proper change.
I am praying as well for the guidance of the people an the countries. I just talked to someone, who changes there last name? Who is mrs, an mr? What about the government paperwork, an previous relations? Is it still set that when they divorce they have to in the state they married in? Is it constitutional? What about Religion?!? (Its against God)
Why after so many years it okay now?
Im really okay with what others do dont get me wrong. But it should be against the law to force pastors to marry them. An others who are religious to bend to there will. An why plaster it on TV so much? I think some parents wouldn't want to explain to a 6 yo or under what "gay, lesbian, butch," is an why MOM and dad are different than them, an such an such.
Guess im out of the straight closet!
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Can't remember ever missing.
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I didn't mean you per say Anthony, im meant to you an others. Not everyone in America not everyone can practice on human targets.. But I ask I have tried animals, an other targets. so will I be willin? ( Imo yes. )
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Can't remember ever missing.
Were they shooting back? That is the deciding factor. Kinda makes you think.
Also, someone mentioned having more kids. Sorry WE were busy working and paying taxes. That's why there are more democrats. Years ago unemployed sat home lived on welfare and had lots of kids. The next generation did the same. Then guess what? They had enough "voters" to vote more freebies. We all know how that turned out. Any thoughts on that???
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What we have here is a Tyranny of the Weak.
When a country has weak minorities dominating a majority, it's a sign that Bigtime SHTF is coming - it isn't a question of "if" but of "when".
When the majority swallows its last bit of unanswered spit in its face - and the longer it takes coming the worse it will be.
Sic Semper Tyrannis
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Oil prices imo I been ranting about as a beginning of something huge bad.
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Oil prices imo I been ranting about as a beginning of something huge bad.
Don't worry about oil prices - they will be going back up soon.
1. Repubs have indicated that "now is the time" to raise gas taxes, and Dems have never seen a tax they didn't like.
2. On tonights news it was reported that the union that controls refinery workers had its members walk off the job yesterday.
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Saw that on the news also. I will be going out in the morning to fill up the Jeep and a few more gas containers. Oh well it was good while it lasted.