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General Forum => General Discussion => : hiking4life April 14, 2015, 02:45:17 PM
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Wow...
Have you guys heard about this? I tend to be a little paranoid at times, but I find this to be a little suspicious honestly.
One of the stores is about 15minutes from me, it was a mad house since they had there perishables on sale for 50% off
What do you guys think about this?
http://www.infowars.com/weird-nationwide-walmart-closures-spark-conspiracy-theories/
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Being that there's a Walmart every 10 miles where I'm at I don't see it as An issue
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H4L, don't believe anything you read on infowars.com. Alex Jones is a wingnut.
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A wing nut who's no longer attached to a wing IMO. Jones would claim that earthquakes in the Cascades were a gov't conspiracy testing fusion reactions to power an Low Orbit Ion Cannon to turn Texas into the New Gulf of Mexico. And some people would believe Jone's crew and start making a chart of all satellites in geo-sync over TX.
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That store is in Valrico. @ miles from me. I'm told it is a sewage issue "under" the building They marked all perishables by 75%.. I missed the stampede. Probably a good thing.
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A wing nut who's no longer attached to a wing IMO. Jones would claim that earthquakes in the Cascades were a gov't conspiracy testing fusion reactions to power an Low Orbit Ion Cannon to turn Texas into the New Gulf of Mexico. And some people would believe Jone's crew and start making a chart of all satellites in geo-sync over TX.
HA!!! ^-^
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That store is in Valrico. @ miles from me. I'm told it is a sewage issue "under" the building They marked all perishables by 75%.. I missed the stampede. Probably a good thing.
Thats the thing thats sorta funny.... the same reason is being given for all the closings.
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I wonder if Alex Jones will report when the stores are reopened? uuuj
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That store is in Valrico. @ miles from me. I'm told it is a sewage issue "under" the building They marked all perishables by 75%.. I missed the stampede. Probably a good thing.
Yeah, I know Alex Jones is crazy...I just thought it was really weird that they were all closing at the same time for the same reason.
Usually they give ample notice for this type of thing, but these closings were pretty abrupt, workers were only told within hours of the closing.
Not saying they will become FEMA camps as Alex Jones suggested. Just thought it was kind of suspicious activity :\
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Well if they find a problem with the sewer that is created by a bad building design and that design is used by several buildings then every one of those buildings could have catastrophic failings at any time. Wait one week for proper notice and risk several pricey repairs and waste of a lot of stock? Or massive sales and give a couple of hours notice then fix the problem within a couple of days?
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I was unaware that Walmart was exempt from building to code... I learn something from yall every day!
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It may have been a bad design. It may have been faulty building supplies. It could be any number of things. Walmart has a zillion stores. This could be part of a scheduled maintenance and repair operation. Who knows? I would lile to know if all the affected stores were built at about the same time, or if the same architectural firm was used, or the same contractors. I would bet there's a common link.
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It may have been a bad design. It may have been faulty building supplies. It could be any number of things. Walmart has a zillion stores. This could be part of a scheduled maintenance and repair operation. Who knows? I would lile to know if all the affected stores were built at about the same time, or if the same architectural firm was used, or the same contractors. I would bet there's a common link.
Yeah but it's a heck of a lot more fun when you go the conspiracy route.
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It may have been a bad design. It may have been faulty building supplies. It could be any number of things. Walmart has a zillion stores. This could be part of a scheduled maintenance and repair operation. Who knows? I would lile to know if all the affected stores were built at about the same time, or if the same architectural firm was used, or the same contractors. I would bet there's a common link.
Yeah but it's a heck of a lot more fun when you go the conspiracy route.
Yup. :)
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I have friends and family with Sam's Club, Walmart's sister store, and word around the break room was their were talks of walkouts and unionizing as this store was closed the same day as the protest on Fowler by USF for all those Burger Flippers wanting $15 an hour. The Walmart workers in California were also reportedly seeking to unionize and there had been protesting at that store. Not sure about the other stores but I'll bet it was about the same. When I worked for Sam's years ago, a guy just joked about unionizing in the break room and a assistant manager overheard him and a week later he was canned.
I don't know if it's true or not, but there's also been talk of firing or retiring many older workers who've been with Sam's and Walmart over 20 years since they can pay two part timers less than what an older full timer makes in pay, profit sharing and health benefits.
Good old Uncle Sam (Walton) should be spinning in his grave knowing what his kids are doing to American workers.
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Interesting to say the least. Florida is a known place for sinkholes an foundation issues.
But wait a bit. I would think they would be operating again. Know they built a super.center, an shut one down for a few days then opened the super. Something about so many in a "zone", they have to be so many miles apart. But as mentioned they are everywhere, even China. An they make a profit.
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I've wondered if maybe these stores had a high rate of "activism" for higher pay or unionization & instead of the squeaky wheel getting the grease, it's just going to get replaced.
Here in NE FL, there's a Walmart every 10-20 minutes in virtually every direction, so hearing about 6 stores closing doesn't indicate to me a problem financially. It's why I lean toward the above issues or other "problem personnel" issues.
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I've wondered if maybe these stores had a high rate of "activism" for higher pay or unionization & instead of the squeaky wheel getting the grease, it's just going to get replaced.
Here in NE FL, there's a Walmart every 10-20 minutes in virtually every direction, so hearing about 6 stores closing doesn't indicate to me a problem financially. It's why I lean toward the above issues or other "problem personnel" issues.
This^!
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chines products strike again ? Maybe Wallyworld can get a product return to the chinamen customer service dept.
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I've wondered if maybe these stores had a high rate of "activism" for higher pay or unionization & instead of the squeaky wheel getting the grease, it's just going to get replaced.
Here in NE FL, there's a Walmart every 10-20 minutes in virtually every direction, so hearing about 6 stores closing doesn't indicate to me a problem financially. It's why I lean toward the above issues or other "problem personnel" issues.
This^!
Ok, its a little more in depth than what I said.... :o
Ultimately the same thing.... Where were on that?!
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new article on the walmart closings including video from inside too. their is a face book page with peopoe following the jade helm exercises all over the countrie with comments... you can find the link in the articles.. their is also an execelant report from an ex nay petty officer who has one of the best explanations for the closings as he was involded in a navel n airforce operation that included usning walmarts as command centers for guerilla type fighters with in the US... his email is alos in the article... after reading all this and the comments on the FB section i dont believe the walmarts are going to be used for detention centers but as on guy said you could put a few detention cells there but more than likely they are going to be used as command centers as in one video the floors are being reinforced while the store is still open.. the only reason you would do that is if heavy type equiptment would be staged there... Also noting the locations of the closing store al along the SW and the southern states.. it would be logical to equate the threat coming from the border states via the open boarder... so this is what im thinking check it out...
http://www.dcclothesline.com/2015/04/30/closed-walmarts-to-be-guerilla-warfare-staging-areas-in-response-to-invasion/
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new article on the walmart closings including video from inside too. their is a face book page with peopoe following the jade helm exercises all over the countrie with comments... you can find the link in the articles.. their is also an execelant report from an ex nay petty officer who has one of the best explanations for the closings as he was involded in a navel n airforce operation that included usning walmarts as command centers for guerilla type fighters with in the US... his email is alos in the article... after reading all this and the comments on the FB section i dont believe the walmarts are going to be used for detention centers but as on guy said you could put a few detention cells there but more than likely they are going to be used as command centers as in one video the floors are being reinforced while the store is still open.. the only reason you would do that is if heavy type equiptment would be staged there... Also noting the locations of the closing store al along the SW and the southern states.. it would be logical to equate the threat coming from the border states via the open boarder... so this is what im thinking check it out...
http://www.dcclothesline.com/2015/04/30/closed-walmarts-to-be-guerilla-warfare-staging-areas-in-response-to-invasion/
My inner conspiracy theorist is pleased with this post. :D So interesting to see what's going on and how secretive they are being..Or how overly paranoid we are becoming..Rather interesting
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*yawn* Wake me up when September comes.
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I should start a thread on here about all the conspiracy theories that have not come to fruition. Actually it would be easier to list the conspiracy theories that have happened.
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That's all I can think of right now. I am not saying that the H1N1 virus can not mutate, or that FEMA can't start rounding up shlubs and putting them into death camps, or that the planet Nibiru can't slam into earth. Actually, that one can't happen since there is no planet Nibiru. I'm a big proponent of Occam's Razor: the simplest explanation is usually the correct one (paraphrased). I am also a big proponent of Expendable's Snake Oil Detector: if a conspiracy theory is posted on infowars.com or Alex Jones' radio show, there is a zero percent chance that it is real. Remember folks, he's a charlatan peddling snake oil. Don't fall for it.
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Just for you EX:
(Warning, you may read some stuff here that the author is making fun of that you may think is true- I know he hit on one or two I have thought about. He also pokes ridicule at conservatives in general)
http://www.npr.org/blogs/itsallpolitics/2015/05/02/403865824/texas-governor-deploys-state-guard-to-stave-off-obama-takeover
Texas Governor Deploys State Guard To Stave Off Obama Takeover
Since General Sam Houston executed his famous retreat to glory to defeat the superior forces of General Antonio Lopez de Santa Anna, Texas has been ground zero for military training. We have so many military bases in the Lone Star State we could practically attack Russia.
So when rookie Texas Gov. Greg Abbott announced he was ordering the Texas State Guard to monitor a Navy SEAL/Green Beret joint training exercise, which was taking place in Texas and several other states, everybody here looked up from their iPhones. What?
It seems there is concern among some folks that this so-called training maneuver is just a cover story. What's really going on? President Obama is about to use Special Forces to put Texas under martial law.
Let's walk over by the fence where nobody can hear us, and I'll tell you the story.
You see, there are these Wal-Marts in West Texas that supposedly closed for six months for "renovation." That's what they want you to believe. The truth is these Wal-Marts are going to be military guerrilla-warfare staging areas and FEMA processing camps for political prisoners. The prisoners are going to be transported by train cars that have already been equipped with shackles.
Don't take my word for it. That comes directly from a Texas Ranger, who seems pretty plugged in, if you ask me. You and I both know President Obama has been waiting a long time for this, and now it's happening. It's a classic false flag operation. Don't pay any attention the mainstream media; all they're going to do is lie and attack everyone who's trying to tell you the truth.
Did I mention the ISIS terrorists? They've come across the border and are going to hit soft targets all across the Southwest. They've set up camp a few miles outside of El Paso.
That includes a Mexican army officer and Mexican federal police inspector. Not sure what they're doing there, but probably nothing good. That's why the Special Forces guys are here, get it? To wipe out ISIS and impose martial law. So now you know, whaddya say we get back to the party and grab another beer?
It's true that the paranoid world-view of right-wing militia types has remarkable stamina. But that's not news.
What is news is that there seem to be enough of them in Texas to influence the governor of the state to react — some might use the word pander — to them.
That started Monday when a public briefing by the Army in Bastrop County, which is just east of Austin, got raucous. The poor U.S. Army colonel probably just thought he was going to give a regular briefing, but instead 200 patriots shouted him down, told him he was a liar and grilled him about the imminent federal takeover of Texas and subsequent imposition of martial law.
"We just want to make sure our guys are trained. We want to hone our skills," Lt. Col. Mark Listoria tried to explain in vain.
One wonders what Listoria was thinking to himself as he walked to his car after two hours of his life he'll never get back. God bless Texas? Maybe not.
The next day Gov. Abbott decided he had to take action. He announced that he was going to ask the Texas State Guard to monitor Operation Jade Helm from start to finish.
"It is important that Texans know their safety, constitutional rights, private property rights and civil liberties will not be infringed upon," Abbott said.
The idea that the Yankee military can't be trusted down here has a long and rich history in Texas. But that was a while back. Abbott's proclamation that he was going to keep his eye on these Navy SEAL and Green Beret boys did rub some of our leaders the wrong way.
Former Texas Lt. Gov. David Dewhurst tried to put it in perspective for outsiders when he explained, "Unfortunately, some Texans have projected their legitimate concerns about the competence and trustworthiness of President Barack Obama on these noble warriors. This must stop."
Another former Republican politician was a bit more pointed.
"Your letter pandering to idiots ... has left me livid," former State Rep. Todd Smith wrote Gov. Abbott. "I am horrified that I have to choose between the possibility that my Governor actually believes this stuff and the possibility that my Governor doesn't have the backbone to stand up to those who do."
There's no argument that after the 2014 election, Texas politics took a further step to the right. The 84th session of the state legislature has given ample proof of that. But the events of this last week have been an eye-opener for Texans of all political stripes.
You will find the names of Texans etched into marble at war memorials from Goliad to Gettysburg, from Verdun to the Ardennes and Washington, D.C. The governor's proposition that these soldiers and sailors constitute a potential threat and need watching as they go about their duties, certainly stakes out some new political ground for the leader of the Texas GOP to stand on.
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yea AB the Gov of TX is taking this thing pretty seriously.... and the TX Rangers are open about what they are seeing like the train box cars with foot shakels on the floor boards...
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Get out! Wal-Mart command centers! Most are in poor neighborhood type locations. The gangs may attack...
An ive no doubt martial law could happen. But using a special warfare force troop to patrol, man check points an apprehend citizens isnt using there talents wisely.
Look at Russian federation SF troops in operation in Ukraine and Crimea, an how they operate. Imo US SF troops will be in asisimilar role. An those who would not take actions on civilians in USA wont be a part of it. The government would know who they are.
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Just for you EX:
(Warning, you may read some stuff here that the author is making fun of that you may think is true- I know he hit on one or two I have thought about. He also pokes ridicule at conservatives in general)
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Funny. Thanks for posting that, AB.
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Dunno... I'm a kind of wait and see guy as of late.... I guess we all are, really.. What else can we do?
While I'm not going to start digging a tunnel, I keep doing what I am doing while keeping an eye on present circumstances... I prepare for what I think is the worst thing I can think of, and try to keep up on whats occurring presently.
I have gotten better at not freaking out... Though some things still cause me a little more concern than others. Mostly those things for which I am less prepared...
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Yall have sorta got me interested in this so I had my wife check into a few things with county.
She has worked for a fairly large company for the last 20+ years and part of her job is dealing with the counties and state concerning fees, permits etc.
As far as the Florida Walmart and the Texas Walmarts , no permits have been pulled for any type of plumbing issues or any other remedial construction that would require permits.
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Yall have sorta got me interested in this so I had my wife check into a few things with county.
She has worked for a fairly large company for the last 20+ years and part of her job is dealing with the counties and state concerning fees, permits etc.
As far as the Florida Walmart and the Texas Walmarts , no permits have been pulled for any type of plumbing issues or any other remedial construction that would require permits.
That was put out on some news channel... I forget which, but someone was investigating and found that there is nothing to show that there is a reason to shut them down. So who knows why? Wal Mart...
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I drove thru the parking lot again yesterday, the Valrico store. No work trucks or anything that looks like construction being done. A few tractor trailers, look they are being loaded with products from the store. No military or security in sight.
There gas station out front of the store is still in operation.
If they start putting up barbed wire fencing, I'll let everyone know. I live less than 2 miles from the store. It's a life changing closure. I have to drive at least 3 miles to the other Walmart. At least I don't have to walk.....
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I drove thru the parking lot again yesterday, the Valrico store. No work trucks or anything that looks like construction being done. A few tractor trailers, look they are being loaded with products from the store. No military or security in sight.
There gas station out front of the store is still in operation.
If they start putting up barbed wire fencing, I'll let everyone know. I live less than 2 miles from the store. It's a life changing closure. I have to drive at least 3 miles to the other Walmart. At least I don't have to walk.....
That extra mile must be killing you Kodiak... At least you can stop by and see the old one still... Watch for two way mirrors going up... They are up to something I tell you... ;)
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Closing that store makes absolutely no sense....Must be the guberment..
I just realized they are building a NEW Supercenter, about 1.5 miles from the closed one. On Bloomingdale..
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As I mentioned earlier before.
Thanks Kodiak.for the tid bit about the super. Fairly certain one closed for the other to open. Did in my "area"
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I live about 20min away from the one in Valrico, so I'll probably be doing some driveby's as well just to see what's going on.
The no permit thing is very interesting, thank you for that tidbit of info!
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Just a heads up everyone... there are TWO 7-Elevens in Sanford that have shut down for remodeling. One I can see, but TWO at the same time? One of them is right across the street from a new Wawa store. That 7-Eleven has actually been demolished and replaced with a new concrete block structure. Looks pretty secure. I'd like to get a better look, but it's surrounded by a high-security chain-link fence. No way this is just a 7-Eleven being rebuilt. Yeah, there's a sign that says it will be reopening in a couple of months, but come on. This has to be a FEMA death camp. I'll try to take some pictures.
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Do they have several cops guarding them? inquiring minds... yada, yada...
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I totally understand making fun of some of the wild conspiracy theories out there, but I also think it should be mentioned that some of these HAVE been proven true, but once proven they lose the derogatory label of "conspiracy theory".
There WERE wmds in Iraq. The army DID experiment with psychic mind control in the 70's, and so on.
A lot of what Snowden leaked would have been relegated to crackpot theories if he hadn't taken documents with him.
Not saying that lizard men are real, but as I read this thread, it sort of implies that people who question the pat stories they are handed are crazy. Isn't that the difference between us and the sheeple-people?
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Hey X & Native, FWIW, a friend of a friends sisters boyfriends uncle told me he has seen several cops mostly at night standing outside the 7-11s holding empty coffee cups and looking very sad. I'm sure they are weeping for the death of the Constitution.
Now that said, and being in some agreement with Ranger, one of the guberments best moves is to put an insulting label on things, ideas, and groups. Birthers, truthers, racist, and of course conspiracy theory. So yea it may be nothing. But it may be something. I really doubt the Wall Mart to FEMA camp concept, but could be something else.
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Well, It has to be SOMETHING.
All of my info has been factual, as I see it.
You have to admit, It is strange
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Recon field trip
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You know. I just had an epiphany.... Perhaps there is Intel out there for future riots?
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For the record, and as God is my witness, my intention was not to insult anyone. I was just having a little fun. Those of you who know me know that I am a skeptic on most "conspiracy theories". I sometimes tend to go a little overboard in trying to prove the absurdity of them. And who knows, maybe one day I might be wrong about one... but I doubt it. ;D
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How can you observe our current leadership and NOT believe in lizard men from space?
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No offense taken, My Friend. Having fun myself.
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First off like Ex said, I apologize if I offended anyone with my previous post. Especially you Kodiak as I hold you and Capt. Nat in the highest regard.
I too am rather skeptical of most conspiracy theories. Most, not all.
Now to continue the discussion at hand. I saw an article on Facebook (FWIW) that says I believe "47 major retailers are closing 6000 stores". I attempted to put link in but couldn't pull that off. But if you google 47 major retailers closing 6000 stores, you do get a few different articles from different "news" groups. So instead of big covert op, leading to martial law, it could, I say could be the beginning of a major economic crash. For all I know, or really any of us, could be both.
Have a happy day!!!
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Same, to you Sir, No Offense taken. I also count you as one of the Good Guys, One of the Respected members of the site.
Closing that many stores sounds shocking, but, in the current state of our Country, not unbelievable.
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There is a link out there which says 47 companies and it lists the companies which are closing them and how many of its stores...
Could be opening up the stores for other business to take over.....
Could be this to?
http://www.corvetteonline.com/news/vette-collections-visits-massive-car-collection-at-walmart/
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Kodiak thank you sir.
Sentry you are correct it was 47.
Corrections made.
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Kodiak thank you sir.
Sentry you are correct it was 47.
Corrections made.
There are links which do say 27 to... Sadly one of them is Alex Jones, which means this will take on a whole new level of whats happening...
Mind you, that is a hell of a difference in the amount of stores for reporting a story.... So, which is right? Is it accurate at all? There is the internet for ya....
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Well, I didn't set out to step on toes either. It's a gift though.
Carry on.......
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On stores closing...
Is this the link an info...
http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/major-u-s-retailers-are-closing-more-than-6000-stores-middle-class-u-s-consumers-are-tapped-out_05032015
shut down is absolutely staggering…
180 Abercrombie & Fitch (by 2015)
75 Aeropostale (through January 2015)
150 American Eagle Outfitters (through 2017)
223 Barnes & Noble (through 2023)
265 Body Central / Body Shop
66 Bottom Dollar Food
25 Build-A-Bear (through 2015)
32 C. Wonder
21 Cache
120 Chico’s (through 2017)
200 Children’s Place (through 2017)
17 Christopher & Banks
70 Coach (fiscal 2015)
70 Coco’s /Carrows
300 Deb Shops
92 Delia’s
340 Dollar Tree/Family Dollar
39 Einstein Bros. Bagels
50 Express (through 2015)
31 Frederick’s of Hollywood
50 Fresh & Easy Grocey Stores
14 Friendly’s
65 Future Shop (Best Buy Canada)
54 Golf Galaxy (by 2016)
50 Guess (through 2015)
26 Gymboree
40 JCPenney
127 Jones New York Outlet
10 Just Baked
28 Kate Spade Saturday & Jack Spade
14 Macy’s
400 Office Depot/Office Max (by 2016)
63 Pep Boys (“in the coming years”)
100 Pier One (by 2017)
20 Pick ’n Save (by 2017)
1,784 Radio Shack
13 Ruby Tuesday
77 Sears
10 SpartanNash Grocery Stores
55 Staples (2015)
133 Target, Canada (bankruptcy)
31 Tiger Direct
200 Walgreens (by 2017)
10 West Marine
338 Wet Seal
80 Wolverine World Wide (2015 –
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So how many is it?
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You can even add McDonalds to the list i believe yhe news said 150 stores.. well i guess the wconomy isnt as good as the CBO is saying it is... Hmmmm
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Most are victims of the economy or caused there own fate. Sears is sad. Build a bear, how will we ever survive???
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For most on that list the answer is simple: ever been in them?
I guess I am part of the reason they are closing, I buy almost everything over the internet. Amazon, partzilla, or the manufacturers website. Its easier to find what you need without running up and down store isles, usually cheaper, and saves so much time and energy running around to stores.
Food and building materials are about the only things I still buy at a real store.
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Wait a minute... 25 Build-A-Bear locations have closed?!? Isn't that one of the signs of the apocalypse?
Seriously, rather than believe that FEMA is closing Radio Shacks and Abercrombie & Fitch to use as death camps, I think that Cracker and Kodiak were right. This is a sign of a faltering economy. That in and of itself could be the canary in the mineshaft as far as an economic collapse. Maybe not, but something to keep our eyes on.
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Agreed. Just because the guberment says things are getting better, Do you believe them? Do YOU see any signs of improvement?
If you do, please, Tell me where they are.
Just look at the price of food and hard goods.
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On stores closing...
Is this the link an info...
http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/major-u-s-retailers-are-closing-more-than-6000-stores-middle-class-u-s-consumers-are-tapped-out_05032015
shut down is absolutely staggering…
180 Abercrombie & Fitch (by 2015)
75 Aeropostale (through January 2015)
150 American Eagle Outfitters (through 2017)
223 Barnes & Noble (through 2023)
265 Body Central / Body Shop
66 Bottom Dollar Food
25 Build-A-Bear (through 2015)
32 C. Wonder
21 Cache
120 Chico’s (through 2017)
200 Children’s Place (through 2017)
17 Christopher & Banks
70 Coach (fiscal 2015)
70 Coco’s /Carrows
300 Deb Shops
92 Delia’s
340 Dollar Tree/Family Dollar
39 Einstein Bros. Bagels
50 Express (through 2015)
31 Frederick’s of Hollywood
50 Fresh & Easy Grocey Stores
14 Friendly’s
65 Future Shop (Best Buy Canada)
54 Golf Galaxy (by 2016)
50 Guess (through 2015)
26 Gymboree
40 JCPenney
127 Jones New York Outlet
10 Just Baked
28 Kate Spade Saturday & Jack Spade
14 Macy’s
400 Office Depot/Office Max (by 2016)
63 Pep Boys (“in the coming years”)
100 Pier One (by 2017)
20 Pick ’n Save (by 2017)
1,784 Radio Shack
13 Ruby Tuesday
77 Sears
10 SpartanNash Grocery Stores
55 Staples (2015)
133 Target, Canada (bankruptcy)
31 Tiger Direct
200 Walgreens (by 2017)
10 West Marine
338 Wet Seal
80 Wolverine World Wide (2015 –
Many of these are based in Malls, and Malls are dying all across America for many reasons. Could it be that they are closing because the Malls in which the stores are located are closing?
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Many of these are based in Malls, and Malls are dying all across America for many reasons. Could it be that they are closing because the Malls in which the stores are located are closing?
No, I don't think so. That's putting the cart before the horse. Malls are closing because they are losing tenants due to store closings. If the stores were still open and paying rent, the malls would be open.
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That is true