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Survivalist's Resources & Preparedness => Communications Tower => : Bumbury September 07, 2015, 12:58:47 PM

: Dry Run
: Bumbury September 07, 2015, 12:58:47 PM
Hey everybody i think that since they new and improved contact list is out i think the we should try a dry run... the last time the site did go down it was for me a wonder whats up, did it get closed down DID THE FEDS close it down... ddd No really it might be a good idea to give it a try to see who gets contacted, how long it takes to get the word out and tehn we can critique the proccess... 
so if you guys think its a good idea than post what and how you think we can do it..

my idea: would be for Sentry who since he is the keeper of the list pick a random day and time to start the site down drill and initiate the contact as he would in real life...

ok..... open to suggestions and ideas......
: Re: Dry Run
: ptajay September 07, 2015, 09:39:01 PM
I'm game but I don't think I'm on the contact list
: Re: Dry Run
: Sentry September 07, 2015, 09:46:47 PM
LOL, They way that came out is sounds like you have had a lot of sugar today... LOL  :D
: Re: Dry Run
: Sentry September 07, 2015, 10:12:51 PM
Initiated

Time sucks... But so does life
: Re: Dry Run
: Sentry September 07, 2015, 10:20:07 PM
I'm only going to sit in front of this radio on open squelch for about an hour... So if you dont make it in in that time... Well you wont get listed...
I'm
Ki4NjF
: Re: Dry Run
: myakka September 07, 2015, 11:20:28 PM
I hollard from Oregon as loud as I could.......    Home soon......
: Re: Dry Run
: Sentry September 08, 2015, 12:07:23 AM
  
I hollard from Oregon as loud as I could.......    Home soon......

I think I heard you. Something about water
: Re: Dry Run
: Sentry September 08, 2015, 12:08:07 AM
Off ham radio as of 2340
: Re: Dry Run
: Sentry September 08, 2015, 12:09:05 AM
It's 0009 right now
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: Sentry September 08, 2015, 12:10:04 AM
Forum time is still 6 hours off after all these years
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: Sentry September 08, 2015, 12:25:07 AM
So ok in reference to contact. I only emailed bumbury just cause he initiated the call. Just wanted to see how it wold go from there this time. As far as another way, to further communicate via internet I unfortunately, "I" can not offer the answer.
There other avenues in place which will be there so long as Internet is up. I cannot respectfully to this forum offer it. It's just rude.

As far as other means of contact, there is text message which I won't do unless it's a real emergency without notice of not mattering in practice alerts. I have none from no one. So that may be something we can to the list. I can bolden your name on the list if you are willing to participate if willing to participate in practice alerts.

There is ham radio also. I gave the freq in the email to bumbary. I neglected to note the time I would listen on open squelch. This was a simplex freq, meaning not through a repeater. This would be radio to radio.
: Re: Dry Run
: SwampYankee85 September 08, 2015, 09:12:59 AM
Im game. Lets see what happens.
: Re: Dry Run
: Sentry September 08, 2015, 11:15:25 AM
Received first contact about 20 minutes ago... From Bumbury via email telling me that pappa44 and -D were notified...

You know, in light of recent circumstances this is a good test... I hope we don't need it, but with Friday coming as its being said... Someone may choose to use this to find a place to stay outside of their current AO.
: Re: Dry Run
: -> Bear September 08, 2015, 01:29:28 PM
1037am I got a Email. An by about 1137 I started to email.
I sent $ome emails.
   I only heard from , 1 :-) thanks for tossing me under a bus. I didnt know what the hell.was going on.
    Now I kinda do. Lets set up a minimum of who we email or whatever an set a chain. Some are retagged to know the chain is moving.
Sent from my Sprint phone.
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: SwampYankee85 September 08, 2015, 01:41:47 PM
I got one. Tagged AB, Nat, and FLP. 1:42pm September 8th.
: Re: Dry Run
: aferalhamster September 08, 2015, 01:58:25 PM
Got the email from Bumbury at 1:45 Sep 9. Wasn't sure who to pass it to so I just tagged the name below me and skipped down to tag two more.
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: aferalhamster September 08, 2015, 02:06:13 PM
I sent to mos19k, the expendable, and alas babylon.
: Re: Dry Run
: Alas Babylon September 08, 2015, 03:26:24 PM
I received 3 notifications, and that's good!  However, as most of us use a "stage name" here,I am not sure who they were from.  Some of you have some very creative email addresses.  I can make an educated guess based on this thread.
Sorry, i have not forwarded it.
: Re: Dry Run
: -> Bear September 08, 2015, 03:51:22 PM
Someone AB at one time gave us the line:
All the world's a stage, And all the men and women merely players;
: Re: Dry Run
: The Expendable September 08, 2015, 08:08:20 PM
OK, I'm gonna chime in... late... as usual...  If I may, allow me to give my thoughts on this:

First of all, I love the idea of a "phone tree".  There needs to be a specific and well designed hierarchy though, or there will be duplication and/or missed calls.  There needs to be one person at the top of the list.  This person should call four people, who should in turn call four more people each.  If they can't reach someone, they should let the top person know.  Actually, the top person should have a checklist to mark who was contacted and who was not.  If for some reason the top person can't reach one of the second people, he should make those calls himself. 

Second, I did not see the original post.  I'm sure a lot of people didn't, so it might not have been a valid test.  I think a little advance notice is in order... not an exact date and time, but at least notify everyone that there will be a test coming up.  I was at work, and didn't have my contact list with me (which says a lot about my preparedness :(  ).  Plus, even if I had my list, or had the contacts saved in my phone, I wouldn't have known who I was assigned to call (see item one above).

Third, I think it was already mentioned, but a lot of emails (mine included) have real names attached.  Some people might not be cool with their real names being forwarded in a prepper context.  I mean, what if my secret identity got out?   ::)

Lastly, and no offense to the newbies, but face it, there have been a lot of people who register on this forum, then drop out after one post.  I have people on my old contacts list who are in that category.  They signed up, said they wanted to be on the contact list, then they dropped out.  Some are not even registered on FLS anymore.  There has to be a way to "prune the dead wood".  IMO, there is no need to contact someone who has not posted anything for at least two or three months.  If you're a newbie, but you take an active part in FLS, I am not talking about you.

That's all I got.  Let's try to get this organized and do another test in a couple of weeks.
: Re: Dry Run
: Bumbury September 08, 2015, 10:59:53 PM
EX all good points like we were talking about earlyer.. Me personally i believe the way sentry did it was in reality the best way to do it.. as explained in the original email to me by sentry :

SENTRY I HOPE YOU DONT MIND ME POSTING YOUR EMIAL

Best time for this is when no one is expecting it.... Which is right after you said it...
 
I heard a loud elongated boom to my east, and a flash of light.  Oddly enough we have  a storm in the immediate area, and the power went out. I'm sending this email via my phone.
 
I cannot contact anyone else (Why I don't know)... Man I wish you other guys had HAM radio, so we could finish this via Packet Radio. (I still need this capability) Where do we go from here...
 
I have a HAM Radio w/ antenna set up, waiting for Simplex Comm's at 147.525 mhz (No Tone) (No Repeater)
 
[Moe is already notified. Do not contact him via Text during the hours of 9P to 5A if not real.]
[Crash_Maxim I don't know]
[Onestep I don't know]
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

when the site went down unexpectedly for real i didnt have a clue what was going on originally I thought O must be maintaince or upgrades... not very good on my part.. so this drill the way it went to me was perfect...

NOW MY THOUGHTS:

i agree with EX on the higharchy thing something to think about.. now on my own personal abilitites:
i posted the idea of the drill and yes i was cought with my pants down..

nice job sentry

lessons learned for me is i should have put the list on my phone immediatly not when i get around to it.. have multiple ways of contacting people on the list

who do i call? so i broke it down to two things.. people in my area of south fla and people who iv corrasponded with before.. so i did.. i was more concerned about the privacy thing while going over the list trying to figure out who to call..

questions:
i understand the privacy thing but in a real emergancy is that really going to b an issue.. something to think about.. me personally i am concerned but in the end the reality of the contact list and the reason to be contacted out weight the privacy issue...

what happens if the net goes down.. or they set up a kill switch.. HAM and txting is going to be the only way.. it was still up when sandy hit NY so having it is going to be important..

i think we need to have a better structer for the tree like EX said that way their isnt any redundancy.. but is that a really bad thing if it was a real emergancy..






 
: Re: Dry Run
: pappa44 September 09, 2015, 05:14:16 AM
Morning All.I haven't check my emails yet today.Was not home yesterday Tuesday o9/08/15.We where up in Lake City looking for a house with Land.Getting out of this City!Anyway email Not a Good way to contact me in a hurry.I only check them twice a day and I do not have that capability on my cell.For me I call,but can text if that's the way we choose to go.I'm one of those people that Hate phones and texting,to me easier to call.But if we want to do a texting/phone Alerts ,it's fine by me.I like the idea of the Tree contact!We can do it in 3's or 4's what ever the group decides.Just CK. my emails,Did Not receive mine for some reason!Guess that's why they are called Test runs..LOLYep we need a plan for the contact Tree!!
: Re: Dry Run
: Sentry September 09, 2015, 05:33:39 AM
I used email and ham radio cause it was almost midnight when I read bums post. If everyone is good with it text might be a better way to go. Cause not everyone's email is in the list, yet not everyone's cell is on the list
: Re: Dry Run
: Bumbury September 09, 2015, 08:56:12 AM
Sentry how about we set up a tree contact list with a 4 person contact group or how ever many in a group and let the group decide how they wont to handle the privacy issue amongest themselves and have a person as the head of the group be responsable for contacting the other group heads... or check in with you and you can dissameniate any information necessary..

that way all the group members can work out the privacy issue amongest themselves and they know when contacted by this person they will know their is some kind of issue/emergency..

EG..
Group Alpha
Group Head contacts:
group member 1
group member 2
group member 3
group member 4

after all in group contacted.. contact head of Tree

rewrite the tree to reflect the groups, group heads and point of contact info..
: Re: Dry Run
: Sentry September 09, 2015, 12:40:19 PM
Well we could do an adjustment to the list as far as location and make that county. And we could pick a contact for each county two if more in any one county.
I'm thinking maybe it should be all cell phones no email for contact and if everyone eventually get ham license that would improve contact options I the event cells can't be used for what ever reason.

Errrr

As far as privacy, if your in the list your name is there so that's kind of gone for everyone. If you do not want to do practice notifications I can note that. But the concept should come with being on the list.

Hope that all made sense.
: Re: Dry Run
: The Expendable September 09, 2015, 06:48:31 PM
Definitely, a phone tree is the way to go.  Otherwise everyone will just be calling random people, meaning some people will be getting three or four calls, other people will not be getting any.

Not everyone has HAM.  In fact, I'll bet that most do not.  I don't have it, and even though I would like it, the expense of the setup puts it way down on my list of priorities right now.  That's just the way it is.  When people sign up for the phone tree, they must give the best way to reach them.  If the best way is by HAM, DON'T list them as a contact for someone who doesn't have HAM.  I know, I didn't really have to say that, did I?   ::) 

A "surprise test" is a good idea, BUT everything has to be set up properly before that happens... phone tree, methods of contact, etc.

I like the idea of the phone tree being set up by region.  We were trying to do it that way way back when we did this before.

As far as privacy goes, I have no problem if most of you know my secret identity.  However, when newbies come on board I don't really want to give out my personal info.  I wouldn't want my real name, phone number, address and email being listed on a forwarded email that goes out to Billy Bob Newbie who has an Amway franchise and a great investment opportunity.  I don't really worry about the government knowing who I am.  Trust me, they know who we all are already (damn... I sound like a conspiracy wingnut!).
: Re: Dry Run
: Greg September 09, 2015, 08:42:33 PM
I got nothing.  :'( nobody loves me.
: Re: Dry Run
: The Expendable September 09, 2015, 08:56:49 PM
  
I got nothing.  :'( nobody loves me.

I still love you.   :)
: Re: Dry Run
: Sentry September 09, 2015, 09:04:50 PM
  
Definitely, a phone tree is the way to go.  Otherwise everyone will just be calling random people, meaning some people will be getting three or four calls, other people will not be getting any.

Not everyone has HAM.  In fact, I'll bet that most do not.  I don't have it, and even though I would like it, the expense of the setup puts it way down on my list of priorities right now.  That's just the way it is.  When people sign up for the phone tree, they must give the best way to reach them.  If the best way is by HAM, DON'T list them as a contact for someone who doesn't have HAM.  I know, I didn't really have to say that, did I?   ::) 

A "surprise test" is a good idea, BUT everything has to be set up properly before that happens... phone tree, methods of contact, etc.

I like the idea of the phone tree being set up by region.  We were trying to do it that way way back when we did this before.

As far as privacy goes, I have no problem if most of you know my secret identity.  However, when newbies come on board I don't really want to give out my personal info.  I wouldn't want my real name, phone number, address and email being listed on a forwarded email that goes out to Billy Bob Newbie who has an Amway franchise and a great investment opportunity.  I don't really worry about the government knowing who I am.  Trust me, they know who we all are already (damn... I sound like a conspiracy wingnut!).

Agreed most are not HAM, I was meaning it would give another option to use. If everyone were a HAM... Also if phones were down,  etc etc etc...

The surprise test showed us there is an immediate problem. Regions would work to, though as it grows for some areas. County will be preferable.
: Re: Dry Run
: Sentry September 09, 2015, 09:28:06 PM
As far as who goes on the list Im trying keep it to people who have been on for a year and fairly active or there might be one or two who have been very active on there but less than a year.

K I just looked and actually it appears everyone has at least a year. So were good there.

Now are we also wanting to take persons off who are no longer on the forum?
: Re: Dry Run
: -> Bear September 09, 2015, 09:31:39 PM
Ex wasnt the first to think of a "structure".....
Lets set up a minimum of who we email or whatever an set a chain. Some are retagged to know the chain is moving.
An I dnC how its figured, when it is it should help
: Re: Dry Run
: Sentry September 09, 2015, 09:35:39 PM
  
I got nothing.  :'( nobody loves me.

Sorry brother I failed you in the excitement... Plus I thought you'd be up spinning in the sky...
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: Sentry September 09, 2015, 09:39:13 PM
Ok so just to get the region thing worked out, get me counties for everyone and Ill work on it a little tomorrow night and through the weekend... I have a couple ideas in reference to this... But I'll need counties for those who do not have one listed.

Thinking color coded Names for each region... Or I can separate it by region.
: Re: Dry Run
: The Expendable September 09, 2015, 09:48:09 PM
  
...
Now are we also wanting to take persons off who are no longer on the forum?

I say prune the dead wood!
: Re: Dry Run
: pappa44 September 10, 2015, 05:28:35 AM
As much as I Hate texting,It seems in this case it's the Best way to go.We all keep our cells handy,like many my emails go to the computer and only get checked once or twice a day.So yep my Vote is for a Texting/Call Tree.Busy selling and buying a New Home so my County will change soon I hope.But we can Up-Date our info as needed.
: Re: Dry Run
: Capt Nat September 10, 2015, 07:57:32 AM
  


I say prune the dead wood!

I'm not dead, just sagging...
: Re: Dry Run
: Bumbury September 10, 2015, 10:08:02 AM
i say we trim the dead wood.. tooo

the one thing the test did show is how we need to be using the list and thats a good thing.. it opened up the contact list and how we can best use it for discussion on the forum...  i see alot of good ideas... so that being said i do think still their should be certain people from each location or group that should report back to the central/top of the tree person so that he can see who needs to be contacted or dissperce any relative information outboud... because if you look in my sector its only me and 1 other person... altho their is alot of other people i do believe they are not very active...
: Re: Dry Run
: myakka September 10, 2015, 10:42:09 AM
I think choosing text or email or ham is short sighted a little.  Do a test on all of the above.  No telling which one will still fly on the day you need it.  Just my opinion.
: Re: Dry Run
: Sentry September 10, 2015, 12:17:06 PM
  
I think choosing text or email or ham is short sighted a little.  Do a test on all of the above.  No telling which one will still fly on the day you need it.  Just my opinion.


Not a bad one since not all have more than one way to contact
: Re: Dry Run
: The Expendable September 10, 2015, 10:39:38 PM
  
I think choosing text or email or ham is short sighted a little.  Do a test on all of the above.  No telling which one will still fly on the day you need it.  Just my opinion.

I say it doesn't matter how we contact those on our list.  If you get no answer on the phone, send a text and an email...whatever it takes to get through.  Once you reach them, pass along whatever information you have and let them know if they can expect any follow up calls.  And then, yeah, you have to let the person above you in the phone tree know who you were able to contact and who you couldn't reach.

So who has the master list?  How is it being maintained?  Hopefully it is backed up as a hard copy in case an EMP knocks out the computer it is on.  Will everyone on tbe list get a copy of it?  I don't think that is necessary (or wise), but everyone in the local calling area (county or region) should have those contacts.

Speaking of EMP, if that happens, phone calls, texts and emails will probably not be possible.  We should have the physical addresses of the people in our calling area so we can at least attempt to contact them in person, even if it takes a few days. 
: Re: Dry Run
: -> Bear September 10, 2015, 10:55:58 PM
Well EX I was given a list by email it was a PDF with I think about 20ish "handles" an some info wrote after the test all info by hand on a piece of paper in a special note book in a certain "code like" way.
   AND im the only one in Alachua County Area on the list. Rice Paddy Diddy Bop I think is on the list an may not be extremely far off or Sgt Prepper, But I really, really am Unsure...
    You Ex, an Bumbury I have messaged with beforehand. An a very few others as well.
But I understand a list. An if someone not on it nearby in your area could slightly be included, personally on the side, based on info an if there on the site.
: Re: Dry Run
: Bumbury September 12, 2015, 11:35:50 AM
if we decide to set up a group contact list than we can have just the head of the group keep the master list and the contact members have a list of the people they are supposed to contact.. just throwing that out there..

if people decide that we keep the list we have and are comfortable with than we can subdivide the contacts into groups..

but as EX said we need to use all means  available to contact everybody an get the information out..
: Re: Dry Run
: The Expendable September 12, 2015, 02:36:34 PM
OK, whoever has the list, can you PM my info to me so I can verify it is current?

Just throwing this out there... I generally don't answer phone calls from unknown numbers.  That's why I would want to know who might possibly be calling me, so I can save their number in my phone.  A text, on the other hand, I will read even if it is an unknown number.
: Re: Dry Run
: Sentry September 13, 2015, 12:00:03 AM
Ok, so here is what I have done thus far

You no longer show what City you gave me... Its all by County now... I'm wanting to change the Notes Column to something else... I forget what at the moment... I may be able to add pop up notes to the file.


What I need to know is who is no longer on the forum or active... So I do need everyone to chime in on this one..

Also, when we started this list everyone was able to add a comment to the notes stating preferred method of contact... The discussion as of late has been to change that to a phone contact first and foremost, then email... Since those are the only two forms of communication outside of radio...

For those who are HAM's do you want to add your Ham Call to the list?

I think you guys will like what I have done to it so far.... Ill try to send out the trial copy tomorrow.
: Re: Dry Run
: Sentry September 13, 2015, 03:43:36 PM
Expendable got me wondering... Who knows that they are on the list...
The following received an email with a new list

 - D
Ricepaddydaddy
Greg
hiking4life
kodiakhershey
moe
Sentry
Bildo6
pappa44
CaptNat
fla_Native
Swampyankee
Alas Babylon
aferalhamster
The Expendable
FlPrepper
Bumbury
mos 19k

Still need to send
onestep
crash_maxim

: Re: Dry Run
: Bumbury September 13, 2015, 07:11:48 PM
i got it... i like the way you divided the peps by region..  and the sticky is a good idea to.. you can add n edit a greater amount of information for each person...
: Re: Dry Run
: The Expendable September 13, 2015, 07:23:19 PM
I didn't get it.  No es bueno.
: Re: Dry Run
: Sentry September 13, 2015, 09:07:37 PM
  
i got it... i like the way you divided the peps by region..  and the sticky is a good idea to.. you can add n edit a greater amount of information for each person...

Yeah found out the sticky notes not going to work out so well. As I re save the excel file as pdf I would have to redo the sticky notes. As long as the  list doesn't change to much it's all good. But changing often would suck
: Re: Dry Run
: KODIAK September 14, 2015, 09:34:25 AM
Sentry, I'm sure we all appreciate your work on this project.
: Re: Dry Run
: -> Bear September 18, 2015, 11:00:55 PM
I thank you sentry.
   An I tried to contact RPD.to no avail. Guess im swinging in the breeze. :-)
: Re: Dry Run
: Sentry September 20, 2015, 08:21:02 PM
Ok... Did anyone try to call me on Friday? Got a call... Was at work, didn't hear it ring. Saw it hours later, and then forgot about it...
Looked on list, Im not seeing the number on there... It was supposedly from Orlando...
: Re: Dry Run
: Sentry September 20, 2015, 09:06:52 PM
HAM Radio Freqs 2M Simplex

Tac 1 -   146.495
Com 1 - 147.525
: Re: Dry Run
: Sentry November 06, 2015, 12:54:53 PM
Ok, I started a phone test today...

I got to thinking perhaps everyone should text the initiator that they were contacted? Not sure if that's such a wise idea or not... But we would know who was contacted.

Does anyone work night shift?

I'm also thinking we should designate who should be the initiator each month?

Have we talked about group texts? Of course I realize everyone might not have thier Cell Phone Number on the list... Im sure  everyone's phone is for the most part the same, where you can leave the text on your phone and use it continuously until you delete it. That way its there if need be...

My thoughts for the day...
: Re: Dry Run
: The Expendable November 06, 2015, 01:39:51 PM
I got my text message (thanks Swamp), but I don't have my list with me.  I dropped the ball.  Sorry.  :(
: Re: Dry Run
: Alas Babylon November 06, 2015, 03:06:35 PM
Count me the same as Ex - got my message from swamp, replied that I don't have a list with me
: Re: Dry Run
: Florida Cracker November 06, 2015, 11:11:03 PM
My phone got the text from Swamp, I was asleep. We are doing good.
: Re: Dry Run
: ptajay November 07, 2015, 08:43:42 AM
I'm here daily
: Re: Dry Run
: KODIAK November 07, 2015, 09:07:00 AM
Got got nothin'.
: Re: Dry Run
: Capt Nat November 07, 2015, 09:12:02 AM
I got the call from Mr. Sentry.  I was out in the woods riding.  Kind of out of the loop on this one...
: Re: Dry Run
: The Expendable November 07, 2015, 09:06:19 PM
OK, let's all get ready and try it again.  One question... has it been established who we should call, or are we all just kinda wingin' it here?
: Re: Dry Run
: hiking4life November 08, 2015, 07:30:24 AM
  
OK, let's all get ready and try it again.  One question... has it been established who we should call, or are we all just kinda wingin' it here?

This is my question as well. I also didn't receive a text, I know on the form it says email preferred so is this just for phone peeps only?
: Re: Dry Run
: The Expendable November 08, 2015, 08:58:11 AM
Can I make one other important suggestion?  Can we remove the last names from the list?  I mean, I really don't care if anyone who is currently on the list knows my secret identity, but I'm not sure I want some newbie who hasn't been vetted to have access to all my info.  With a first and last name, it's way too easy to look up home address or a lot of other info.  Again, no one on the list now worries me, I just don't want some psycho showing up at my door one day.
: Re: Dry Run
: The Expendable November 08, 2015, 09:37:04 AM
Here's a screenshot of how I set it up in my phone...  I added the contact info of everyone in my area (East Central Region).  I put "FLS" as a prefix on every contact name so they would all be grouped together.  I also added a group in my contact list called "FLS East Central" so I could send out a message to everyone at the same time.  Plus, I added everyone's real names to a "nickname" field.  Hopefully I won't be out of the loop next time.  :)


: Re: Dry Run
: ptajay November 08, 2015, 09:56:57 AM
  
Got got nothin'.

lol me neither have to jump through the hoops to get my access
: Re: Dry Run
: The Expendable November 08, 2015, 10:05:52 AM
  
  
Got got nothin'.

lol me neither have to jump through the hoops to get my access

Oh, did you send the processing fee to sentry?   ;)
: Re: Dry Run
: Sentry November 08, 2015, 11:41:44 AM
  
  
Got got nothin'.

lol me neither have to jump through the hoops to get my access

Its not about jumping through hoops PT... Calm down...

Who is for PT being added to the list... PM your response...
He is pretty active on the forum.
He did show up to the Prepper show Last year...

Mind you PT, people are very protective of the information on the list. As I would hope you would be... If we break the precedent of who gets added to the list and when... Then we allow someone else on the list later who abuses the trust of being added to the list...

Ya only have three more months till you hit a year on the forum...
: Re: Dry Run
: Sentry November 08, 2015, 11:43:16 AM
  
OK, let's all get ready and try it again.  One question... has it been established who we should call, or are we all just kinda wingin' it here?

Still winging it....
: Re: Dry Run
: Sentry November 08, 2015, 11:45:44 AM
Kalos, I still do not have info on you....
: Re: Dry Run
: The Expendable November 08, 2015, 11:54:09 AM
I won't vote on whether a specific person gets added to the list (as long as it's not Terrel, aka Survivor Guy).  I will say publicly that there should be some sort of vetting, or at least a minimum number of posts or participation before someone goes on the list.  I've seen countless newbies register and post an introduction message, only to disappear after a post or two.  I honestly don't want someone like that on our contact list.

Now, I don't know what the number of posts should be.  I think there could be exceptions to the rule too, like if someone is personally known and is invited by a list member to be added.  Other times you can just tell if someone is the real deal.

One more thing, I don't think that inclusion on the list should be permanent.  There are lots of people who used to be active members who, for whatever reason, do not participate on the forum anymore.  After a certain amount of non-activity they should be dropped.  What that amount of time is, I don't know.  Three months?  Six months?

Being on this list should be taken seriously, and should be treated as a benefit for those who are serious about it.

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: Re: Dry Run
: The Expendable November 08, 2015, 12:05:37 PM
Speaking of number of posts and length of membership, I didn't even notice with the changes to the forum that I can't see a list of all registered members anymore.  Has this been eliminated, or am I just too dumb to find it?
: Re: Dry Run
: Sentry November 08, 2015, 12:23:35 PM
  
Speaking of number of posts and length of membership, I didn't even notice with the changes to the forum that I can't see a list of all registered members anymore.  Has this been eliminated, or am I just too dumb to find it?

huh, by golly your right... I cant find it either.... I still think there needs to be a serious purge to that list.... To many names of people I have never seen do anything, to fish through... That's another topic though...
: Re: Dry Run
: hiking4life November 08, 2015, 12:30:26 PM


I agree that having set terms for people to be added to the list can get pretty dangerous. There are people that are out to manipulate and take advantage and will do whatever is necessary to find "easy" resources to get what they want..and if that means waiting around on a site for a year and being "proactive" to get a list full of people that have stockpiles, they will do it.

A purge of the site would be in the best interest of all of us tbh, but that's just my inner web admin coming out.

I do think that the list should be limited to a very tight group and have strict access on who is allowed to be a part of it. Not to be paranoid or what have you, but someone could find out alot of information on someone just by that list, and that's even if the last names are taken off and we are already putting ourselves out there by what we talk about on this site.

Just my $.02  ::bb

: Re: Dry Run
: ptajay November 08, 2015, 12:36:21 PM
  
  
  
Got got nothin'.

lol me neither have to jump through the hoops to get my access

Its not about jumping through hoops PT... Calm down...

Who is for PT being added to the list... PM your response...
He is pretty active on the forum.
He did show up to the Prepper show Last year...

Mind you PT, people are very protective of the information on the list. As I would hope you would be... If we break the precedent of who gets added to the list and when... Then we allow someone else on the list later who abuses the trust of being added to the list...

Ya only have three more months till you hit a year on the forum...

 If it comes down to wait till February that's fine I can wait till February if that's the group prefers.  I want to engage with everyone and do things, it's to bad I missed Ocala.  Hell we can meet up and you can interview me if you want, can't remember if you're local but just saying. 
: Re: Dry Run
: Sentry November 08, 2015, 12:44:52 PM
So we are in need of volunteers to be regional contacts...

North West Region
Primary
Secondary

North East Region
Primary
Secondary

West Central Region
Primary
Secondary

East Central Region
Primary
Secondary

South West Region
Primary
Secondary

South East Region
Primary
Secondary

The Primary contacts call all the persons in their region... In the event the Primary is not available, contact the Secondary.

Obviously anyone can initiate contact due to some sort of event occurring in their immediate area. But then the question comes Down to, who would you contact outside of your region and why?.

Let me know if you all think this is a way to go....

If a primary or secondary is contacted, then its up to them to decide how to contact everyone:
Phone - Immediate Danger
Text - Not answering or requested text first.
Email - Informative

We need to come up with a ground rule on when to do these practice runs, so that it does not become annoying to people...
once every couple months?
Once every six months?

Also I started adding everyone on my contacts like The Expendable did his... Unfortunately I cannot create Groups so I can push one button to make one text quickly..
: Re: Dry Run
: Sentry November 08, 2015, 12:47:48 PM
I also would like to know, if the number I have for you is Cell or Home... This will all be shown in the list, so that people know whether or not they are able to text you.

I am going to remove the Notes column, and you will be able to have more information in your notes for others to know...

So when you receive the new list, you will see what I am talking about.. So think about what you want people to know...
: Re: Dry Run
: SwampYankee85 November 09, 2015, 01:47:28 AM
Ill go ahead and step up for one of the east central contacts. This was close to what was discussed during the campout as far as meets go but I like the idea of it being applied to the notification list.

As far as recipients of the contact list is concerned I believe that only verified participants should receive a copy of the list. Guess that's gonna be another job for Sentry. I'm not too worried about nefarious happenings stemming from sharing contact Info. All participants should understand that there are some "hard targets" on the list and the list should be used as intended lol.

Ex I like how you set up your contact list, going to do the same!
: Re: Dry Run
: The Expendable November 09, 2015, 12:59:41 PM
  
I also would like to know, if the number I have for you is Cell or Home... This will all be shown in the list, so that people know whether or not they are able to text you.
...

Good point.  I sent out a test message to East Central group, and only got two responses.  Could be that some of the numbers were landlines, so my text never was received.

As far as vetting goes, I was thinking something like a minimum of 100 posts and participation at least once per week or two.  No participation for three months and you get the boot.  Is that too strict?
: Re: Dry Run
: -> Bear November 09, 2015, 02:18:06 PM
Lost my first post attempt, I'll try again!
   I will admit my emails come to my phone.
I had a phone issue and got kinda confused as to when the test came, I might have been informed a day later...
  To say it as nicely as I am able...
Some people here I have shared a # they can text me with, I would like my number off the list, but I would share it with some..
On the list, some close enough family and friends also have it. Would please like to be told if its shared with someone else to kinda try keeping up with my unknown contacts so I may expect them.
 The choice I hope is understandingly mine thanks, and if you choose to email or pm me for it, if I have not contacted you, I will consider it.
 Thank ya.... :)
: Re: Dry Run
: -> Bear November 12, 2015, 11:46:47 AM
Last post was on the 9th
 Any further suggestions or input, questions?

I see we have regions...
   Top of the region name
Contacts others in the region unless someone else volunteers,
 The top name contacts other top names and like here there should be a mod type, billdo6 or Sentry who makes the list. Contact them when you did what you could in your regions. And who was unreachable

    And attempt to report in somewhere here by say 6/7ish pm ...
: Re: Dry Run
: Sentry November 17, 2015, 11:07:01 AM
Yes you are getting an email asking if you still want to participate... Seeing who is still around, I know most are...
: Re: Dry Run
: Sentry November 17, 2015, 12:09:51 PM
Ok, I changed my mind I redid/ added to the list and sent it to everyone I have an email for... If I do not have your email by the next list you will be removed from the list. I sent PMs to those I need emails from...
: Re: Dry Run
: pappa44 November 18, 2015, 06:04:54 AM
Got mine! It looks Great.Thanks Sentry
: Re: Dry Run
: The Expendable November 18, 2015, 03:23:08 PM
  
Ok, I changed my mind I redid/ added to the list and sent it to everyone I have an email for... If I do not have your email by the next list you will be removed from the list. I sent PMs to those I need emails from...

You have my email, but I didn't receive the update.  What am I, chopped liver?
: Re: Dry Run
: KODIAK November 18, 2015, 07:07:29 PM
  
Got mine! It looks Great.Thanks Sentry
Me too. Thanks
: Re: Dry Run
: Sentry November 19, 2015, 08:47:56 PM
  
  
Ok, I changed my mind I redid/ added to the list and sent it to everyone I have an email for... If I do not have your email by the next list you will be removed from the list. I sent PMs to those I need emails from...

You have my email, but I didn't receive the update.  What am I, chopped liver?

OK, Im not sure of the time I sent it vs the time you posted this... I hope you have it by now, cause I sent it the same day Im pretty sure.. Ill double check though.
: Re: Dry Run
: The Expendable November 20, 2015, 12:50:09 PM
  
  
  
Ok, I changed my mind I redid/ added to the list and sent it to everyone I have an email for... If I do not have your email by the next list you will be removed from the list. I sent PMs to those I need emails from...

You have my email, but I didn't receive the update.  What am I, chopped liver?

OK, Im not sure of the time I sent it vs the time you posted this... I hope you have it by now, cause I sent it the same day Im pretty sure.. Ill double check though.

As of Friday at 12:45pm I have not received anything.  It's not being filtered out, because I check my mail on my phone and it doesn't filter anything.  You're sending it to my xxxxxxxxxx@cfl.rr.com address, right?  My "theexpendable.com" address is no longer monitored.
: Re: Dry Run
: Sentry November 20, 2015, 04:57:29 PM
  
  
  
  
Ok, I changed my mind I redid/ added to the list and sent it to everyone I have an email for... If I do not have your email by the next list you will be removed from the list. I sent PMs to those I need emails from...

You have my email, but I didn't receive the update.  What am I, chopped liver?

OK, Im not sure of the time I sent it vs the time you posted this... I hope you have it by now, cause I sent it the same day Im pretty sure.. Ill double check though.

As of Friday at 12:45pm I have not received anything.  It's not being filtered out, because I check my mail on my phone and it doesn't filter anything.  You're sending it to my xxxxxxxxxx@cfl.rr.com address, right?  My "theexpendable.com" address is no longer monitored.

Yes... You dont have a junk mail? Matter of fact I didnt even have to type in the email it was already there for me when I started to type it in...
I have sent it to you two times.
: Re: Dry Run
: The Expendable November 20, 2015, 09:49:51 PM
  
  
  
  
  
Ok, I changed my mind I redid/ added to the list and sent it to everyone I have an email for... If I do not have your email by the next list you will be removed from the list. I sent PMs to those I need emails from...

You have my email, but I didn't receive the update.  What am I, chopped liver?

OK, Im not sure of the time I sent it vs the time you posted this... I hope you have it by now, cause I sent it the same day Im pretty sure.. Ill double check though.

As of Friday at 12:45pm I have not received anything.  It's not being filtered out, because I check my mail on my phone and it doesn't filter anything.  You're sending it to my xxxxxxxxxx@cfl.rr.com address, right?  My "theexpendable.com" address is no longer monitored.

Yes... You dont have a junk mail? Matter of fact I didnt even have to type in the email it was already there for me when I started to type it in...
I have sent it to you two times.

Yeah, I have junk mail filters when I use my computer, but on my phone everything gets through.  I got bupkus.  I'll send you an email from my computer tomorrow.
: Re: Dry Run
: Sentry November 20, 2015, 10:44:00 PM
I can't figure out why you are not receiving it... I am pretty damn sure I have your email cause you received the previous lists. I sent you a normal email this afternoon via my iphone with out attachment.

If you did not receive that then we have wires crossed somewhere or someone is reading your mail before your receive it...   ;)

Ill await your email...
: Re: Dry Run
: The Expendable November 20, 2015, 11:02:56 PM
  
I can't figure out why you are not receiving it... I am pretty damn couldn't am ve your email cause you received the previous lists. I sent you a normal email this afternoon via my iphone with out attachment.

If you did not receive that then we have wires crossed somewhere or someone is reading your mail before your receive it...   ;)

Ill await your email...

Since I am settled into my chair in front of the TV, covered up with dachsunds (AKA: the battlehounds), and also because I'm a lazy b@stard, I couldn't go to to my computer, but I did look at your PM from a couple of weeks ago where you confirmed my email address.  It was correct.  But I also looked at the last few days worth of emails on my phone... nothing. 

You could always contact me the way we contact Capt Nat... with the "Nat Signal".  :)
: Re: Dry Run
: -> Bear November 21, 2015, 04:30:30 AM
I will try ya later today, you seem to get my emails Ex. I will see if I fail ... 8)
: Re: Dry Run
: Sentry November 22, 2015, 06:33:16 AM
  
  
I can't figure out why you are not receiving it... I am pretty damn couldn't am ve your email cause you received the previous lists. I sent you a normal email this afternoon via my iphone with out attachment.

If you did not receive that then we have wires crossed somewhere or someone is reading your mail before your receive it...   ;)

Ill await your email...

Since I am settled into my chair in front of the TV, covered up with dachsunds (AKA: the battlehounds), and also because I'm a lazy b@stard, I couldn't go to to my computer, but I did look at your PM from a couple of weeks ago where you confirmed my email address.  It was correct.  But I also looked at the last few days worth of emails on my phone... nothing. 

You could always contact me the way we contact Capt Nat... with the "Nat Signal".  :)

Nat signal?  :o I didnt get that memo.  ???
: Re: Dry Run
: Capt Nat November 22, 2015, 09:27:54 AM
I look up into the sky for it every night.  Every night that I don't see it I think "Thank God" and sleep soundly knowing that the defication has not made contact with the rotary oscillator.  When the world needs my superhero powers, I will launch right from my front porch...
: Re: Dry Run
: SwampYankee85 November 22, 2015, 04:39:04 PM
Now I'm curious. What is "The Nat Signal"? This has potential.
: Re: Dry Run
: myakka November 22, 2015, 07:21:15 PM
It is a giant projection of a bottle of metamucil.......
: Re: Dry Run
: -> Bear November 22, 2015, 08:16:54 PM
Dry Run..   So how do we alert without a issues like last time?

Who is the region contacts?

The top contact?

Is this a fail?

Any viable ideas?

: Re: Dry Run
: Sentry November 22, 2015, 09:00:03 PM
  
Dry Run..   So how do we alert without a issues like last time?

Who is the region contacts?

The top contact?

Is this a fail?

Any viable ideas?

Read the notes
: Re: Dry Run
: Alas Babylon November 23, 2015, 07:44:27 AM
If you look up in the night sky, and see this reflecting off the clouds, you will know the call has gone up, the  defecation has made contact with the rotary oscillator-
Behold the Nat Signal:
: Re: Dry Run
: SwampYankee85 November 23, 2015, 10:00:14 AM
  
If you look up in the night sky, and see this reflecting off the clouds, you will know the call has gone up, the  defecation has made contact with the rotary oscillator-
Behold the Nat Signal:
You and Myakka have a good idea here.
: Re: Dry Run
: Capt Nat November 23, 2015, 05:58:46 PM
That looks a lot like me too..... 8)
: Re: Dry Run
: -> Bear November 24, 2015, 01:53:31 PM

Notes!?!? What flipping Notes? Honestly don't remember the Memo your talking about?
 Ya lost me ! ???
  
  
Dry Run..   So how do we alert without a issues like last time?

Who is the region contacts?

The top contact?

Is this a fail?

Any viable ideas?

Read the notes
: Re: Dry Run
: Sentry November 24, 2015, 09:06:50 PM
In the PDF I sent, can anyone see the notes I inputed into it?
: Re: Dry Run
: Sentry November 24, 2015, 09:12:55 PM
  

Notes!?!? What flipping Notes? Honestly don't remember the Memo your talking about?
 Ya lost me ! ???
  
  
Dry Run..   So how do we alert without a issues like last time?

Who is the region contacts?

The top contact?

Is this a fail?

Any viable ideas?

Read the notes

Did you receive the file?
: Re: Dry Run
: -> Bear November 25, 2015, 02:56:44 AM
  
In the PDF I sent, can anyone see the notes I inputed into it?
Sorry for the timing.
I was in the "urgent care" and my phone died. Im alright. Check email...
: Re: Dry Run
: pappa44 November 25, 2015, 04:08:17 AM
  
In the PDF I sent, can anyone see the notes I inputed into it?

If your talking about the notifier box in red!Yes.My message is slightly wrong,should be Call or Text and you forgot to Highlight my number it is my cell phone.But you have worked your butt off on this and it is Great!!Thank you for the Hard work... 
: Re: Dry Run
: The Expendable November 27, 2015, 12:36:32 PM
  
It is a giant projection of a bottle of metamucil.......

I don't think any discussion about Metamucil is appropriate in the "dry runs" thread.   :-\
: Re: Dry Run
: The Expendable November 27, 2015, 12:38:39 PM
  
In the PDF I sent, can anyone see the notes I inputed into it?

I saw the notes, but I didn't get them from you.  D forwarded it to me.  I can only see the notes on my computer, not on my phone.
: Re: Dry Run
: The Expendable November 27, 2015, 12:43:53 PM
Here's what I plan, and what I understand to be proper procedure:  When the "Nat Signal" goes up (or when I receive a text), I will in turn send a text to all those I have saved on my phone, which is the "FLS East Central" group:




However, when I sent out a test message of my own after setting it up, I only got two responses.  <sigh>
: Re: Dry Run
: -> Bear November 27, 2015, 12:57:41 PM
Well EX that might explain sentry and my mystery.
  I use a phone (no computer) and I seen no notes. EurekA!