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General Forum => General Discussion => : -> Bear December 28, 2015, 11:53:39 AM

: Are You?
: -> Bear December 28, 2015, 11:53:39 AM
Maybe increasingly seeming more Paranoid?

Willing to see and Join a patriotic revolutionary rebellion?

   Are You seeing a twister future possibility, that if the Government does crack down and people RISE Up. How does this effect change the preparation mindset of a catastrophic failure or event?
    Other nations may sweep in to hinder all of us. Debt bubbles are close to popin', government is oppressive, nations are rising against nations. And a Possible NWO wizard of Oz might try mergers. Terrorist organizations, and false flags.
    People have every right to stand Up and face arrest to set this country on a better path
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: KODIAK December 28, 2015, 03:15:21 PM
I think it will happen.
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: -> Bear December 28, 2015, 04:05:06 PM
New American Civil War coming in 2016?
https://www.rt.com/usa/civil-war-2016-us-582/

    If the military does move on citizens. That there is unconstitutional! It's unfathomable treasonous behavior.. they get deployment to our streets, or fire a shot there will be imo HELL Fire! In this contry.
    I recommend we have options thought out.
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: -> Bear December 28, 2015, 04:33:25 PM
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posse_Comitatus_Act

http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/may/28/inside-the-ring-directive-outlines-obamas-policy-t/?page=all

 raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years; http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/conlaw/warandtreaty.htm
Good reading
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: fla_native December 28, 2015, 07:43:12 PM
You might want to make special note of this....

 US Army Training and Doctrine Command for 2016-2028
TRADOC PAM 525-3-3
2 (b)

"........ (b) 
Future Army forces training and education
must place lower echelons in uncertain and complex situations.
Training programs and exercises must compel units to operate with
degraded systems, under degraded conditions, and out of contact with their superiors for
considerable periods of time so they can practice mission command,
be challenged to take risks,
and evaluated on how well they achieve higher commander’s intended purpose. ....."

(c)
"...Training that emphasizes the commander’s intended purpose and autonomous action
and initiative will help foster trust and develop self
-
synchronization in future
Army
force
s
.
This
training can be likened to operating under radio
silence, in which individual elements execute,
learn, adapt, and execute again within the commander’s intended purpose of the mission, but
without direction from higher.
This training is best conducted in a dispersed area of operation
that replicates the
unit’s anticipated unique operating environment...."

Pay very close attention. There WILL be a test.
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: -> Bear December 28, 2015, 08:06:08 PM
 answer the question directly; will the US military fire on US citizens? Of course;

http://theantimedia.org/would-the-us-military-fire-on-american-citizens/

Just following orders.
      We will be labeled in a true uprising as terrorists, traitors (like the founding fathers), criminals or cooks.
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: KODIAK December 28, 2015, 09:06:12 PM
I followed the orders for 20 years. I think that is long enough.
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: cook December 29, 2015, 06:21:58 AM
  
answer the question directly; will the US military fire on US citizens? Of course;

http://theantimedia.org/would-the-us-military-fire-on-american-citizens/

Just following orders.
      We will be labeled in a true uprising as terrorists, traitors (like the founding fathers), criminals or cooks.

Hey,I rsent that....I think? O0
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: cavedweller December 29, 2015, 08:37:22 AM
  
New American Civil War coming in 2016?
https://www.rt.com/usa/civil-war-2016-us-582/

Only thing interesting in that article was the reference to where the essay was originally located.  I just looked up the Small Wars Journal.  While I didn't find the essay in this "news" piece, did spot a treasure trove of other great articles. Going to be spends a good deal of time on that website reading.

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: Fat Slacker December 29, 2015, 10:40:55 AM
The only people I see rising up are the Black Lives Matter crowd.  I certainly wont be joining that revolution.  Everybody else is too busy trying to make a living and enjoying life with their spare time.  I'll admit I've found myself CCWing a larger gun as a result of the increased active shooter incidents.
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: KODIAK December 29, 2015, 12:59:48 PM
Just say this somewhere....

When Injustice becomes law, Resistance becomes Duty........

    Are YOU Duty Bound????
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: fla_native December 29, 2015, 01:54:31 PM
  
answer the question directly; will the US military fire on US citizens? Of course;

http://theantimedia.org/would-the-us-military-fire-on-american-citizens/

Just following orders.
      We will be labeled in a true uprising as terrorists, traitors (like the founding fathers), criminals or cooks.

Yes. They will. As will Law Enforcement.
But, you wont be innocent when they do. Wont turn in youre semi auto rifle? Terrorist use those therefore you are aiding and abetting terrorist. Guilty.

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: -> Bear December 29, 2015, 04:04:35 PM
Cook my spell check corrected me.
   Kook/ kooky. Or Looney tunes
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: -> Bear December 29, 2015, 04:29:22 PM
I think I will hear of confiscation and loose my combination numbers and (coughing) misplace some stuff.
    I have a lil one I worry of leaving a firearm in reach. I keep up with mine, and do what I can. I try keeping up with new laws and what is in place.
       I like the old phrase that you can take my firearms from my cold dead hands. But I also like the phrase what dont kill me better run.
     I dont want to willingly allow whatever weapons I got be taken especially by force. But I also have a mind that is of some value.
   Know when to fight, know when to run, pick your ground, be smart. Hide when necessary and do whatever needs done...
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: SwampYankee85 December 29, 2015, 04:50:25 PM
What about those in official capacities that would use said capacity to prevent things like that from happening? I remember this happening a while ago.

http://www.campaignforliberty.org/u-s-sheriffs-rise-up-against-federal-government-sheriff-threatens-feds-with-swat-team-grass-roots-take-charge

Just like bad guys, good guys are everywhere.
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: ptajay December 29, 2015, 05:00:51 PM
A lot of speculation, won't really know who will do what till it happens. Potential for some scary shiznit.
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: KODIAK December 29, 2015, 05:40:33 PM
  
What about those in official capacities that would use said capacity to prevent things like that from happening? I remember this happening a while ago.

http://www.campaignforliberty.org/u-s-sheriffs-rise-up-against-federal-government-sheriff-threatens-feds-with-swat-team-grass-roots-take-charge

Just like bad guys, good guys are everywhere.
My Friend, I Pray you are right.
Hope for the best, Prepare for the worst.
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: SwampYankee85 December 29, 2015, 05:43:02 PM
 ;)
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: fla_native December 29, 2015, 06:03:59 PM
Lets see... locals VS Fed... hmmmm.... I think we lost that fight once already.
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: ptajay December 29, 2015, 06:20:21 PM
 We will just have to change the fight
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: -> Bear December 29, 2015, 06:47:34 PM
  
Lets see... locals VS Fed... hmmmm.... I think we lost that fight once already.
    Whats more scary is there federal stockpiles vs Locales.
And the feds wanting to do away with paper currency.....
imagine a world where you couldn’t use cash for anything?
This is the direction things are going – especially in Europe.
95 percent of all retail sales in Sweden are cashless?  And did you know that the government of Denmark has a stated goal of “eradicating cash” by the year 2030?  All over the world, we are seeing a relentless march toward a cashless society,
    We for just a thought think about the squeeze they will attempt if there is a revolt
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: fla_native December 29, 2015, 07:14:56 PM
Wait until the next depression . Feds take over all banks, issue ID cards that double as debit cards, paycheck is now deposited into federal account. No cash and no "buying or selling" without the um, card.
Sound familiar?
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: KODIAK December 29, 2015, 08:54:14 PM
Agreed, Hard times will come again. I pray the real American People will come thru stronger, with a renewed sense of Patriotism.
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: Sgt. Prepper December 31, 2015, 12:11:14 PM
  
answer the question directly; will the US military fire on US citizens? Of course;

http://theantimedia.org/would-the-us-military-fire-on-american-citizens/

Just following orders.
      We will be labeled in a true uprising as terrorists, traitors (like the founding fathers), criminals or cooks.
This is what I believe, some would but many would not! The military doesn't operate in a vacuum, they know what is going on and the oath keeper movement is pretty big in the military (and among law enforcement on the local level). 
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: -> Bear December 31, 2015, 04:10:04 PM
For all the people, saying or screaming NRA, Gun Right's, Pro 2nd!
   I see many without any words walk in a Airport, an Amusement park, and lock theres up, or leave them behind. No, hey what's this I got a right, or I have a CCW, 2nd amendment says I CAN stuff. No protests, no rallies nothing. Go to work and leave your weapons behind many people say nothing and Will.
 A Knife 3" or bigger is not allowed. Okay Cool!, No Mace Here. YOU GOT IT:).
Where are our voice at!? HELLO!!
   I went through security, said no weapons of any sort. I said my peace. And still kept a Knife!
     TERRORISTS WILL! THEY ADMITTEDLY HAVE CAHONAS!  They say beeeep the Law I carry and I take you out before they see AlfaLfa! :) we wouldn't Dare! ??? It may not technically change a Darn thing! But I wont leave ALL my stuff behind and not Say SOMETHING! And I will ADMIT IT! I have took a knife into some parks (they say no weapons- I got something). I also have my Cane.
  We shouldn't just go silently into the night. We should go Yelling !!!!



HOOOOAH!
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: Saints75 December 31, 2015, 06:19:30 PM
I'm with you "D". I will do my best to obey the rules. But to a point! There are some places that I just don't go to if I ain't allowed to conceal carry or have some kind of protection with me- period.
Hey even though the VA says no weapons, I still have been able to have a pocket knife on me without any problems. I will not go along with the blind and mindless idiots....
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: rice paddy daddy January 01, 2016, 12:36:59 PM
I refuse to worry about, or get stressed out over, events I have no control over.
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: -> Bear January 02, 2016, 09:22:53 PM
So RPD, if you refuse to Worry or Stress of things you've no control over.
  You dont "prepare" for events? Cause you don't concern your self to worry or Stress over EVENTS out of your hands?
 You'll take whatever may come, however it is or whatever it may be?
   I think imo we Former Service Troops would stress to a small degree over EVENTS, thats why services Train, we "worry" about possibilities in combat therefore we do in life,  and "train" for the possibilities of future "worry"
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: Bumbury January 04, 2016, 09:16:13 PM
basically like we did in the scouts be prepared for anything....  keep an eye on the chalkboard and deal with situation as they happen...