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General Forum => A Little Scenario => : catfishn August 13, 2017, 09:40:04 PM
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Since Trump won the election, the left has kept up the violence and rioting. After what happened yesterday in Charlottesville, VA, the communist and other assorted Democrats have taken to the streets in Tampa, Seattle and Oakland. They are burning American Flags and waving the old Soviet Union Flag. They of course need no reason to take to the streets to riot and engage in violence, but it seems they are ramping it up this weekend. Stay aware and safe.
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Maybe the draft will come back into effect and north Korea war will kick off before a new American revolt.
But you see the demoncrats acting up and I'll agree. Wish they would pull there head out of there @$$ and put there efforts into helping the country instead of hindering and harming the country.
I'm not all for the neo nazi groups. I will say the state of Virginia wants to strip the Robert E Lee statue out and dispose of it. Doing away with a piece of history and those white race groups at lest did something the daughter's and sons of the Confederates, the historians, and others failed to do. Stand Up in defence of another southern historical piece.
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Why is everything so political ,is no wonder our nation is so divided ,and is been this way since the bloody Civil War ,one side blaming the other and nothing ever gets done or fix , ""A house divided against itself cannot stand." http://www.abrahamlincolnonline.org/lincoln/speeches/house.htm
No one wants to delete history nor change it ,but symbols of oppression ,hate ,bigotry should not be display in our nations public arena ,they belong in a museum under a glass cage properly title for all to see ,just like the Nazi flag or the KKK one.
My opinion.
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Those monuments are of Americans, and were placed by Americans to remember and honor Americans. There is a reason why so many of our military bases are named after Confederate Generals. It was done in the name of healing and to bring the Nation back together. The people behind these attacks on the monuments are just beginning. They won't stop if they are successful in removing all of these monuments, which, by the way are protected by State laws in many areas, they will turn their attention at other monuments they deem are not correct and that need to be changed. These are the same people that go after college mascots, college speakers they do not approve of, etc.
Hate is hate. It does not matter if a person is on the right or the left of the political spectrum.
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http://start.att.net/player/article/newsy_now-the_many_symbols_of_the_modern_white_power_movemen-newsy
Any symbol or monument that has anything to do with oppression ,discrimination ,abuses against a particular race or religion should not be display in USA soil ,the bedrock of world freedom and democracy ,and if this whites supremacies want their own country they are free to go and build one somewhere just like Hitler wanted to do. History ,good or bad should be preserved for all to see but displaying a statue of someone who stood for slavery and oppression is totally wrong, is no wonder brother fought against brother and father against son to abolish the slavery mentality in this Great Nation, is very sad that in today`s USA we still have that type of ignorance and hate and if we expect to survived and rebuild after a major shtf event with groups like this running around preaching Hitlerism ,we are in deep trouble as a Nation ,is no wonder they lived and form their own communities ,just like the communities of lepers in the past .
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LOL. You do realize that our Founding Fathers have come under attack for holding what is considered "white supremacy" views. Should we rid our Nation of monuments to them?
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http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/founding-fathers-and-slaveholders-72262393/
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2016/01/12/founding-father-or-racist-free-speech-or-hate-speech-students-debate-thomas-jefferson-and-other-icons/?utm_term=.2321f0bce150
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"There is not a man living who wishes more sincerely than I do, to see a plan adopted for the Abolition of Slavery"- George Washington
It is an undeniable fact - and America's greatest tragedy - that as she proclaimed to the world that all men are created equal and entitled to liberty - she at the same time held 1/5 of her population in lifelong slavery. George Washington led America to freedom while at the same time personally owning hundreds of slaves. He didn't fought for slavery in the Civil War which by the end of it, roughly 179,000 black men (10% of the Union Army) served as soldiers in the U.S. Army and another 19,000 served in the Navy. Nearly 40,000 black soldiers died over the course of the war—30,000 of infection or disease. Even that fail to give them their sacred Freedom, and as we see today from the resent events we still have problems. No country in the World displays symbols that are reminders of hate to its people ,they belong in a Museum period .Only in Russia, China, NKorea ,Cuba butchers are display ,you don`t see Germany displaying Hitler or its Nazi past ,all related to it has been demolish.
They are museum pieces and part of history.
This white supremacy groups should never be given the right to parade in a free America street or city, they belong in the jungle somewhere.
"the only purpose for which power can be rightfully exercised over any member of a civilized community, against his will, is to prevent harm to others"
John Stuart Mill, on the Freedom of Speech Act.
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This white supremacy groups should never be given the right to parade in a free America street or city, they belong in the jungle somewhere.
"the only purpose for which power can be rightfully exercised over any member of a civilized community, against his will, is to prevent harm to others"
John Stuart Mill, on the Freedom of Speech Act.
These two sentences contradict each other.
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what you fail to either understand or will not admit, is the same argument for removing Confederate monuments are now being used to remove other monuments. Today there has been a call to remove George Washington and Andrew Jackson monuments from Chicago because they were slave owners. Are you telling me that some slave owners were better than other slave owners? Just because you believe you can't be racist, as we all feel, does not mean others can't say you are based on you liking George Washington.
"There is not a man living who wishes more sincerely than I do, to see a plan adopted for the Abolition of Slavery"- George Washington
It is an undeniable fact - and America's greatest tragedy - that as she proclaimed to the world that all men are created equal and entitled to liberty - she at the same time held 1/5 of her population in lifelong slavery. George Washington led America to freedom while at the same time personally owning hundreds of slaves. He didn't fought for slavery in the Civil War which by the end of it, roughly 179,000 black men (10% of the Union Army) served as soldiers in the U.S. Army and another 19,000 served in the Navy. Nearly 40,000 black soldiers died over the course of the war—30,000 of infection or disease. Even that fail to give them their sacred Freedom, and as we see today from the resent events we still have problems. No country in the World displays symbols that are reminders of hate to its people ,they belong in a Museum period .Only in Russia, China, NKorea ,Cuba butchers are display ,you don`t see Germany displaying Hitler or its Nazi past ,all related to it has been demolish.
They are museum pieces and part of history.
This white supremacy groups should never be given the right to parade in a free America street or city, they belong in the jungle somewhere.
"the only purpose for which power can be rightfully exercised over any member of a civilized community, against his will, is to prevent harm to others"
John Stuart Mill, on the Freedom of Speech Act.
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Civil War was started on the Basis of states rights, and not started on the Basis of Slavery Truck driver review your history. Around mid conflict old Abe abolished slavery. Robert E Lee was a west point graduate and Teacher. A General in the US Army before he went confederate because he would not go against Virginia, his native home. Grant was a Embarrassing Drunken Mess until the war between the state broke out.
I'm a Yankee, came to florida in 04'
These monuments are like tombstones, there up to respect how far we come and the brothers who did die.
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A majority of the Black numbers, listed in the war of cesession were in the Union Army doing menial jobs, like they were used to but being paid to cook, they helped horses and with artillery, they were not in a unit of themselves given free reign..
If I recall correctly off the top of my head. Robert E Lee freed his fathers slaves when he came of age. His wife, though, i think was an adoptive descendant of George Washington and the heiress to a massive plantation network, just don't quote me. And his Home was confiscated made into a field hospital and I think stands on the grounds or Arlington. ..
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Learn What Caused the Civil War ;https://www.thoughtco.com/top-causes-of-the-civil-war-104532
Slavery had a lot to do with it and fathers and sons die to keep humans in chains, anybody who fought to retain humans as slaves in my view is not a hero but a criminal and should be display as such ,history has two sides not just one and those who suffer under it should be allowed to speak ,just because someone idolizes a dead person it doesn't make it everybody's hero, cruelty past and present is wrong. The problem is that there are people who still have a hateful mentality and don`t want to let go a dirty past that embraced human bondage, our nation according to the FBI is full of them ,I will never forget the past but in order to moved forward we need to forget the bad ,and just learn from it ,period. I respect others opinion and feelings and I know is hard to deal with what is happening in our country now ,I`m just going to leave it at that.
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LOL. We have liberal and democrats running around calling for dead cops, and destroying public property. We have blacks claiming all whites are racist. We have Democrats saying Mount Rushmore should be blown up. The hate of the left has been and will always the worse hate, because the left does not feel it can be hateful. Therefore, they claim they can say and do as they want without question.
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LOL. We have liberal and democrats running around calling for dead cops, and destroying public property. We have blacks claiming all whites are racist. We have Democrats saying Mount Rushmore should be blown up. The hate of the left has been and will always the worse hate, because the left does not feel it can be hateful. Therefore, they claim they can say and do as they want without question.
I agree......
It was not white supremacist that burned and looted Baltimore, it was not white supremacist that burned and looted Ferguson. It was not white supremacist that ambushed police in Dallas, New York and across the country. Or that rioted and broke windows at Berkeley and other college campuses.
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This whole thing is artificial George Soros is funding these riots to start a civil war in an attempt to take over our government. He did the same thing in Ukraine using the same kind of tactics. Look him up.
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There was a lot more to the war than slavery .
Heck, Why was slavery even an issue at all? Yes, I know, its a bad thing.... Yall are judging those people by todays standards, you cant do that... todays standards and viewpoints are much different. Slavery was the major economic engine in the South and the northern states had tried for many years to destroy the Souths economy which was, at the time the second largest economy in the world. things like a 40% tax on all Southern goods were imposed by a northern held congress.
At the height of Slavery a total of 4% of southerners owned slaves yet all fought to protect their homes...why?
A public school understanding of history is not enough to even begin to understand all that was involved. As for statues, are we going to be even - handed here? Is someone being offended the standard? Am I allowed to destroy anything that offends me? Or is that only reserved for certain groups?
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War of independence, a military attempt by a rebel movement to have a territory break away (secede) from a sovereign state to form a new sovereign state in its own right
The states joined the "union" to form the usa, and has a right to leave. The usa prevented the states legal right. Jefferson Davis was never tried or convicted just jailed
The cops could've stopped traffic in an out of the protest area
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Seems to me that liberals get away with more, I'll call it bad behavior, than conservatives.
One other point. Seems that history is being rewritten to fit the current needs of the masses.
I'll shut up now. (For a while).
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White Supremacists More Dangerous To America Than Foreign Terrorists, Study Says ;http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/24/domestic-terrorism-charleston_n_7654720.html
And many still fail to understand slavery and freedom many here fail to understand oppression and many take freedom for granted many have never lived under a totalitarian government , the civil war was long time ago and whether it was for slavery or cotton it was wrong to own humans just because they were different and even today many in this great Nation hate others because of their race ,hell our white forefathers killed the Native Americans ,our white forefathers wanted all the land and when the Natives try to defend themselves ,they were called savages, our white forefathers where nothing more than a bunch of ignorant immigrant bigots and racist and this country is full of then still. No other country in the World celebrates or displays symbols of hate or dark history except communist or dictatorship ones , this country needs a good cleansing a good laxative from those who hate still. I will take a black looter or rioter any day vs a white trash white supremacist any day.
Most Of America’s Terrorists Are White, And Not Muslim ;http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/domestic-terrorism-white-supremacists-islamist-extremists_us_594c46e4e4b0da2c731a84df
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LOL. I suppose the attacks on Thomas Jefferson, Christopher Columbus, Francis Scott Key, and our National Anthem are all because they fought for the Confederacy, or associated with the Confederacy? Even the media has had to admit their fellow liberals, ANTIFA, are nothing but violent thugs. Since September 11th, 2001, more Americans have been killed by Islamic terrorists than any white hate groups. You are stupid. Do you honestly believe minorities can't be racist? As it stands, more whites are killed by blacks, than blacks are killed by whites. So, good luck with wanting to hang out with black racists.
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https://youtu.be/NanumqpBDtA
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St Louis Mossuri had a recent uprising. Protests over a judge saying not enough sufficient evidence saying a white cop planted a weapon on a black man who was killed and not enough to convict the cop, so he was "acquitted"
Several Cops attacked, riots, fires, ect...
2x in Mossuri, once in California and once in DC, and in south Carolina . I think, so im wondering when it will be chaos in Florida ... wondering how much worse the riots may go and what states are next. . Who wants to grab marshmallows and hotdogs and sit back while the world burns?
Imo if people are offended by a statue and want them removed, Washington DC and Washington State may soon have a Name Change.. if it goes that far, how about I want most Martin Luther King Jr Roads renamed... they will be asking to take down robert Lee's home on Arlington before long.
People are willing to battle over road rage, I've 2 incidents in the last month. . Tempers are elevated in the USA and the USA needs a Chill Pill. We American people seem wound too tight, and seem less prepared. .
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St Louis Mossuri had a recent uprising. Protests over a judge saying not enough sufficient evidence saying a white cop planted a weapon on a black man who was killed and not enough to convict the cop, so he was "acquitted"
Several Cops attacked, riots, fires, ect...
2x in Mossuri, once in California and once in DC, and in south Carolina . I think, so im wondering when it will be chaos in Florida ... wondering how much worse the riots may go and what states are next. . Who wants to grab marshmallows and hotdogs and sit back while the world burns?
Imo if people are offended by a statue and want them removed, Washington DC and Washington State may soon have a Name Change.. if it goes that far, how about I want most Martin Luther King Jr Roads renamed... they will be asking to take down robert Lee's home on Arlington before long.
People are willing to battle over road rage, I've 2 incidents in the last month. . Tempers are elevated in the USA and the USA needs a Chill Pill. We American people seem wound too tight, and seem less prepared. .
The people aren't wound too tight. You're just watching too much TV is all.
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S.Y. I honestly don't try watching much tv unless it's certain shows between 8-10p (there not on all the time), right now on Thursday I'm watching Zoo at 10p. And sadly I try to see ABC world news &/or BBC. But I end up watching a few shows a week of PBS cause of my Lil one. I try to listen to sky talk or classic rock or classic country and BBN and Christian radio off and on and my CDs, and cassettes
Also when I can I get you tube, and Internet on my phone
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That's an interesting video. Now, we have seen the next step, NFL players and others not standing for the Anthem and the Flag. That train just keeps picking up steam.
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According to antifa the civil war starts on November 4th. With the intent to over throw our government. personally I don't think anything is going to come from it. There may be small groups in major cities that try to stir up trouble. But I don't expect a national uprising like their web site calls for. I do recamend everyone keep your eyes open and be aware of your surroundings.
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***foul language***
Just in case you guys haven't seen this yet...
https://youtu.be/5oGKXIibAD8
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LMRNAO! It's funny, because it's TRUE!
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Thats hilarious!!
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acronym for antifa
Annoying
Nitwits
Total
Idiots
For
Arrest
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Surdizmf_dw
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So, what was the point of that? Seriously what was that anal flaps point? I couldn't Handel more than 70 seconds.
Beyond that what was the point of posting it? To prove that these idiots exist? No one has disputed that. The worst, absolute worst reason I can think of is to compare these walking talking piles of roach crap to our nations' Founding Fathers. I really hope that was not the idea. However after reading the article from Huff Po, could be. On that subject, the Africans were not enslaved, and the Native Americans were not attacked because they "look different". Also, the American Indians were not called savages because they "resisted" having there land taken. They were considered savages because they didn't live in houses, didn't wear clothes, and because they would do things, you know in the name of resistance, like rape torture and murder entire families. Yes the white founders did bad things to people, horrible things. That does NOT mean all other people's were innocent.
Please tell me where I'm wrong.
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You didnt know all white people were nazis?
You need to get woke ^-^
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What? Dang I must have missed that memo. Probably in the same stack of mail as my white privilege checks.
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I was just getting used to being a cracker.