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Survival Gear, Weapons & Deals => Firearms, knives & weapons! => : TBL December 28, 2011, 05:58:22 PM
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I am a newbie and a little confused. I see people talking about good and bad AKs. I am getting ready to get one. One is the best one on the market?? What do I look for to get a "good AK"???
Thanks in advance for your help.
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I'm a slow-learner in the AK-47 'verse
despite my owning 2 [I.O.,Inc USA-made
and Chinese MAK-90].
My perspective is that Russkie and Chinese
Kalashnikov's were built as Military issue
pieces for mainline battle ops.
Snag an
unused version and You should be okay
when the Winds-o'-Change are a'blowin.
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Arsenal AKs are the best. Your going to pay more but its worth it. You can find non arsenal rifles that are good as well. Totally agree with Slug, the russians and the chinese rifles are the better of the bunch but what you gotta realize is most ak rifles you find are built from parts kits so it really depends on who built it. WASR 10 AKs are notorious for being built bad because everyone and there mother was building them at one point and the receivers originally held single stack ten round mags. These were milled out to accept the thirty rounders and most of them were done sloppy.(lots of magazine wiggle) You can still find rifles that were built right, even the WASR rifles but you gotta look at a lot of different things like front sight cant look at the gas block and make sure that's straight and check the spacing on the gas tube. Has the gas piston been welded where it connects to the bolt carrier? Who made the receiver and was it stamped right and trimmed correctly? Is your hammer spring wound correctly? Pins all mushroomed out bad? Theres a lot of stuff to look for that can make a difference in the rifle. Go with a builder with a good rep first like arsenal. If you dont have the funds be prepared for a hunt. Bare minimum never buy one you havent handled.
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pre ban-
norinco's (mak 90's etc)
sa-85's( hungarians)
polytechs
post ban-
early SAR1's
krebs
arsenals
vectors
lancasters
i own a vector.
around 5k+ through it and i dont baby it at all.
the arsenal sgl's get a good rep as well. but some parts dont interchange as easily as some with other makes.
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Vepper. The best, hands down if you can afford it.
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The ATLANTIC ARMS webpage for
VEPR AK's states that Hi-cap mags
(anythign over 10-rounds) are Not
compatible with the receiver mag-wells.
I don't see how a 10-round magazine
is an advantage in a survival rifle. :-\
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Russians still make the best AK recievers. You can't go wrong with a Saiga and converting it!
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Outside of some of the early WASR aks, which if I recall correctly, had issues with oddly shaped mag wells, Ive never seen a "Bad" AK. True, the fit and finish on some are better than others but Ive never seen a STOCK AK of any type fail to function.
AKs do suffer from the infamous "tacticool" syndrome.... all kinds of crap hanging off it, attached to it and just generally looking like a demented christmas tree.
But thats not the AKs fault, heck, some of the worse offenders in that category are almost all handguns, a large number of shotguns and any number of semi-auto rifles.
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Here's a guy that has one for sale in Orlando. 922r Ready
http://floridaguntrader.com/index.php?a=2&b=143380
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Ill add my two cents. While some seem to be better than others I think if you inspect any of them properly and they seem to be a solid weapon you cant go wrong. Ive looked at alot of them lately and some seem better built than others. Try to find one that is put together well and has a smooth action. The most common problem ive seen is the mag well as previously stated. Ive seen some where the magazine wont even fit in the receiver, and some where it wobbles so bad it nearly falls out. Find one that the mag fits snuggly and is inserted and released smoothly. These are just somethings Ive run across but in gerneral Id say the best AK is the one you can afford.
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Outside of some of the early WASR aks, which if I recall correctly, had issues with oddly shaped mag wells, Ive never seen a "Bad" AK. True, the fit and finish on some are better than others but Ive never seen a STOCK AK of any type fail to function.
AKs do suffer from the infamous "tacticool" syndrome.... all kinds of crap hanging off it, attached to it and just generally looking like a demented christmas tree.
But thats not the AKs fault, heck, some of the worse offenders in that category are almost all handguns, a large number of shotguns and any number of semi-auto rifles.
What do you mean by converting it. Converting to what.
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Basically moving some guts and stuff around so its more like a traditional ak. That way you kind of have a russian ak.
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If you've got the dough, Krebs is the way to go. I had a chance not all that long ago to shoot one and was very impressed by the work.
The only WASR I've played with was an unbelievably unreliable, poorly constructed POS. I've read/been told this is no longer the case, but it soured me on the line.
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Yeah, Ive seen a lot of bad reviews on the wasr 10 but some people say that they are fine. They usually seem to be the cheapest and that is what I am looking for. If you pick up a wasr 10 what do you look for and what questions should you ask (if buying online)?
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The best one is the one you can reach when you need it...
Kodiak
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What does everybody think about the Polish Tantal AK74?
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Polish aks are good rifles. If im correct i think that the polish were either the first or only country that produced aks with a fire control until the russians developed the AN94. The real ones have a three round burst mode so if you buy one thats what the funky dial was on the back side of the reciever opposite of the lever side. 5.45 is a cool round. I rock a 74 and i love it.
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What about any problems with corrosion from the 5.45mm round?
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there seem to be a lot of personal opinions and some mis information here uuuj
why not check out www.theakforum.net
you will have to register to view the forum , but about the best AK info out there
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What about any problems with corrosion from the 5.45mm round?
i dont have problems with corrosion. You just need to clean your rifle when your done shooting it. Its not like you can shoot it and throw it in the closet for a month. My camera isnt the best but heres a pic of my bolt face. I tried getting one of the bore but i couldnt get a decent one at all. Ive shot a ton of corrosive surplus through it.
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there seem to be a lot of personal opinions and some mis information here uuuj
why not check out www.theakforum.net
you will have to register to view the forum , but about the best AK info out there
Thanks for the link
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Yeah, Ive seen a lot of bad reviews on the wasr 10 but some people say that they are fine. They usually seem to be the cheapest and that is what I am looking for. If you pick up a wasr 10 what do you look for and what questions should you ask (if buying online)?
My first AK was a norinco which has been flawless but it also cost me, recently I ran across a Romanian WASR that came with 400 rds of ammo for $375 I couldn't pass it up so I got it. Truth is it's just as accurate as my norinco and has yet to fail. As for buying one offline, I wouldn't buy a WASR without holding it and inspecting it. They are to inconsistently built no two are alike. You can get a good one just be sure to check it out good.
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Yeah, Ive seen a lot of bad reviews on the wasr 10 but some people say that they are fine. They usually seem to be the cheapest and that is what I am looking for. If you pick up a wasr 10 what do you look for and what questions should you ask (if buying online)?
My first AK was a norinco which has been flawless but it also cost me, recently I ran across a Romanian WASR that came with 400 rds of ammo for $375 I couldn't pass it up so I got it. Truth is it's just as accurate as my norinco and has yet to fail. As for buying one offline, I wouldn't buy a WASR without holding it and inspecting it. They are to inconsistently built no two are alike. You can get a good one just be sure to check it out good.
I second that! You can get a good WASR but ya gotta hunt a little.